Squad Nero Episode 54: Beyond Invincible

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What it do, y'all?

It's your humble host, Saige, back in the motherfucking building yet again.

It's Squad Nero, season two, episode 13, AKA week 54, episode 54.

Back in this thing, I got my brethren in here, as always, Croco's Corner.

We got Nino and Tsmoov up in the building as well.

We got a couple of things that we can tap into real quick.

It has been like a little light, but I guess a little consistent as well with the animation as well as Spider-Man just dropping this past week.

I know a couple of us, I'm guessing, have watched it so far, the two episodes that they dropped.

We got the continuation of Solo Leveling, and then we got this new Invincible trailer, which we might as well tap into for the first get-go around.

Do we have any other videos or was that the only one?

That song was hot, Rob.

Appreciate that.

I just like how Squad Nero was not on any of the videos.

Yeah, that's the one thing that I was like, damn, I didn't have enough time, so I had to edit like I always do.

I always come and clutch and clean up your mess.

Also as well, shout out to Pyron AMVs.

That's who I got the AMV from.

I'm not going to lie, I legally downloaded it.

So.

You really going to put your thumb on blast like that?

If you need, if you need, not, yeah, I wouldn't say compensation because we're not getting paid for this.

But if you need us to put, yeah, YouTube at the bottom in the descriptions or something like that, please contact us.

Very much, I appreciate you.

Yeah, just do it.

Oh, put it in, okay, I'll put it in.

All right, let's just go ahead and get right to this trailer before Rob keeps incrementing himself.

I had to be honest, man.

Oh yeah, you were very honest about 15 minutes ago.

This is why I didn't want to say anything.

Yo, where the volume?

I just want to have it hold up.

Hold up, let me fix it.

Should have been working.

That said, keep the audio.

That's it.

All right, cool, we back at it.

My bad, my bad.

Hey, Omni-Man is here!

He told me Nino was for Oliver.

In the last 90 days, Mark's speed has increased 65%.

His endurance, 70%.

Cecil, I can never trust you with either Mark or Oliver's lives, no matter what.

Ouch!

That's so much stuff!

80 million people counting on you.

I-I've been busy f***ing up for other people.

You guys are in big trouble!

Is that all you got?

You look amazing!

I don't know.

It was a little serious.

Yo, I think that was the wrong one.

I forgot this shit was coming out so damn soon.

It's four days away now.

Yeah, I think that's the wrong one, T, because this is the wrong one.

I said the TV spot.

Yeah, that's the little one that's up there.

But then the next one is from one month ago.

Three months ago, season three teaser.

Nah, the one month ago.

I think they put it on Twitter.

I think, did they drop a new Daredevil trailer, too?

I thought it was a piece of a jar for Daredevil.

What is it called?

I mean, that's the one.

Oh, no, but there's something else, though.

I think that we might get to use.

All right, I'm just gonna send it.

I'm not gonna lie, this one all look kinda hard, though.

Nah, I'm not gonna lie.

What?

I can't.

I just can't.

I can't do it.

Let me stop that before we get copyrighted.

I was about to say, her loving.

But no, I guess the other one I was talking about was just like a...

Oh, here we go.

Oh, okay.

Is that all you got?

Yeah.

That, okay, that was it.

Hello, DLL teaser.

It literally said January 30th, that was Invincible HQ on Twitter.

I'm telling y'all, the suspense in that trailer is crazy.

Well, they didn't show the dialogue, so they didn't show them the different cut scenes from the faces they were making.

But we already know what happens in that scene.

I'm just saying, they really teased that a lot this season, so I don't know.

I think they're gonna take a different turn with it.

I think you're muted now.

Yeah, it would be interesting to see how they do that.

Do you like, nigga, have me searching for an eight second clip?

Quiet.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

What would the Vox cartels at the Grammys right now?

He's allowed back in the US.?

What?

I know he's out of jail, but he's allowed back in the US now?

Yeah.

Oh snap.

He did his time.

Yeah.

Yo.

The people of Jamaica banded together to get that nigga out.

Bowin down the niggas.

Real, real general.

I just know he's screaming, his breath stank.

Cool.

Kais and I, he just be mouth breathing.

You do, bro.

Like people be like, all right, bro, all right.

Cool, you cool, but like-

I got one more before we get back on track.

Did y'all, okay, y'all know how the Royal Rumble was yesterday?

Yeah, we seen what happened to Speed.

Bruh.

What's good, Tyler Vicious?

Bruh.

Tyler Vicious was good.

What's good, he broke.

What's good?

Yeah.

Appreciate you for stopping by, appreciate you.

We are supposed to be talking about Invincible, but we kind of got sidetracked.

Oh, here we go, here we go, here we go.

Here's a clip.

This story had me rolling.

I'm sitting there watching it last night.

We can't hear anything.

Pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it.

So, what happened was one of the characters was supposed to go out.

He was entry number eight.

One of the guys that got eliminated hit Tazawa over the head, so he couldn't continue on.

So, Spee's in the back where, like, before the wrestlers come out, they pass, like, the soundboard and everything where Triple H is at.

Spee's in there doing his strength thing.

So, he's like, yo.

You're taking his place.

You're going in there.

Played his own theme and everything in his song.

He's in the rumble.

Somebody get the man.

Some knee pads.

Some elbow pads.

A crash helmet.

Hey, he appeared in us.

He's wrestling in a prawn bottle.

And note, the last time he was in wrestling last year, he got RKO by Randy Orton on the announcement table.

I knew he was going to be in the rumble.

Now he's splitting his way to the ring.

And look at how he got in the ring.

That was pretty nice.

And going right.

And look at trying to eliminate Chad and Ray.

And now trying to help break or eliminate Otis, which he does.

So wait a minute, Isospeed actually has an elimination in the rumble.

Dogs barking in the ring.

Hell yeah, Isospeed.

Oh my God.

Breaker just about broke Iso's speed in half.

One dog just killed another.

He just sawed speed in half.

That's dogicide.

Meanwhile, Breaker with speed.

Nino, oh, this speed's still in the match.

He has a middle, well, that was, he's eliminated now.

I don't say at that point I would have been pissed.

Y'all did not have no right to go over like that, son.

That's what he signed up for.

That spear looked kinda deadly.

I ain't gonna lie.

Yeah, yeah.

That's the thing.

Here's the thing.

Wrestling is safe.

It's choreography.

I understand that.

I get it.

But the hits, the falls that they be taking is real.

Like that spear, that was full on like an NFL hit.

Braun Breaker was in the NFL for a short stint.

That man know how to hit.

That is the son of Scott Steiner.

Gorilla position is the term.

The dog is dead.

That's crazy.

Bruh, that man died.

Because you could see the weight.

Like he, it wasn't like a simple, you get hit and fall.

He drove him into the ground.

You could see his head bounce up.

I think that man caught CTE in that moment.

And then to get tossed like that over the thing, the man had a giant gash on his leg when he was leaving out from Royal Rumble when he met up with Logan Paul.

But back on Invincible, yeah, it's second clip.

Thank you, D.

Are y'all excited for the new season?

Yes, I am excited.

Super excited.

The best podcast in the land.

Lord have mercy.

I liked how you did that there.

I liked how you did that there.

But yeah, I'm super, I feel like we asked this question, but fuck it, we're just gonna keep asking, what aspect are y'all most excited about with this new season?

Is it more so a specific story element or a villain that you want to see or a fight that you want to see?

Same answer for me.

Same answer.

We've been, well, at least we've all discussed this in length, so I won't go too far, but pacing.

I'm just curious, I think that's gonna continuously be the thing that I'm looking forward to, but also looking at the strongest for each season, just because I don't know how far they're gonna go, but it's a lot of stories still to tell.

I think Onslaught will be the final, spoiler alert, Onslaught will be the final battle of the season.

I'm pretty sure that's what they've been talking about.

They showed them in the trailer as well.

Conquest, my bad, I apologize.

I was getting them mixed up.

All right, what about y'all?

I would say the pacing is well.

I mean, you see in the story develop a little bit more.

I did, you know, I'm really big on animation, so I wish it looked a little bit better, just a little bit sharper.

But I mean, other than that, I feel like they're going at a pretty good pace.

And I just really wanna see what changes they make.

Cause at first, like I hated the character of Amber, but then last season, like a few of the changes they made to like the relationship, it was like, dang, like I can actually relate to how she feels in this relationship.

You know, she almost got her head popped off and everything.

So it's like, okay, like just the story develop in a certain way.

So I'm excited to see where they go with that.

Yeah.

I'm looking forward to the pacing and the fact that we won't have a three, four week hiatus between four episodes in four episodes.

Now, if you're giving me eight, just let it run straight through.

Don't give us a break.

And I'm strongly hoping that the pacing continues on.

And I don't want four episodes of build up for four episodes of amazing, like for heat.

I want all heat for the whole season.

Facts.

Because you gave us terrible pacing in the first four episodes, then we're on a break, and then we come back with some heat.

But it was too long of a wait.

You should just play them straight through.

Have y'all ever went back and watched that season too back again without the break?

Yeah, it's good.

It's good without the break.

It's good without the break.

It's solid without the break.

But my thing is, when you add that break in there, it took away the momentum.

It took away the momentum.

I can give it that.

I'm excited for the fights in this one.

I'm pretty sure, another spoiler alert, I think Nolan is gonna be getting out of jail this season.

Yeah.

With Alan the Alien.

Yeah.

So I'm excited to actually see that.

I'm excited to see Mark versus Conquest.

Who else?

Battle Beast.

Battle Beast too?

Captured by the Viltrumites as well.

So that should be cool.

I'm excited to see the leader.

I'm excited to see if they actually show the leader of the Viltrumites.

Oh, Thragg.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm curious if they will actually show him now, because I can't remember.

I'm pretty sure they talk about Conquest being defeated back in Viltrum and everything like that.

But a lot of things to be excited about for this season.

We're getting close to the end game.

So just a whole lot of animated content coming out as of recently.

And I have no qualms against it, to be honest with you, whether it be the anime, which is starting to heat up a little bit more or the animated side.

All right.

So that's Invincible.

I did have a video that I put in a private chat in StreamYard.

It's a 12 minute video.

It's talking about somehow Daredevil is tied in with the defenders, possibly, in bringing back some of those characters from the actual Netflix defenders, but obviously doing some changes to make sure the characters are a little bit better.

I think most people like Jessica Jones.

The Luke Cage was atrocious and Iron Fist was even more atrocious.

So, they got to get back to the drum bar with those.

But I sent over the YouTube video.

I don't know if you want to watch it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm about to put it up there.

Yep.

I thought this nigger was on the phone.

Why are you talking about that?

No, I'm seeing them.

I see.

Side note, the Grammys is today and Kanye and his wife showed up uninvited.

God, no.

Oh.

And got escorted out.

Oh.

Because she was very, you know how they wear very-

Scantily clad.

It was scantily of the cladding.

You see everything.

The dress, it was straight see-through.

You could see everything on that woman.

Lock in, nigga.

I'm locked in.

No, you're locked in.

You're locked in for the Grammys.

Or something else.

I'm just saying, it threw me off.

Oh, her Grammys outfit is actually a see-through naked suit.

Yes, it is.

It's like a derrick.

He wasted no time.

Yeah.

He said, he was out, wasn't he?

Me and D were right here, bro.

Let me see what this-

Oh.

Oh.

She dressed for a casting couch.

Pretty much-

Yo, that's wild.

Now I got to look it up.

I'm looking it up right now.

I'm trying to look it up.

While you're looking up, I'm going to go ahead and browse it.

I'm going to go ahead and put this on Twitter.

I'm going to go ahead and pull it up, T.

I'm not pulling it up.

All the time has passed.

Oh, she took off the jacket.

God.

Okay.

Yep.

Yep.

All right.

It's time to say goodbye.

I made her.

Daredevil.

Welcome back, everyone.

Billy Fox has been teasing some special cameos from the wider Marvel universe in Daredevil Born Again.

In the Marvel social media accounts, just teased all the other Netflix Defenders characters, making everyone think we'd actually get some more Defenders cameos outside of Punisher and the other characters coming back from Daredevil Season 3 during the Netflix era.

There's already a couple big Defenders Easter eggs going on in the Daredevil Born Again trailer that we'll point out.

And I know there's still tons of questions about what's still canon from that era.

The Netflix Defenders, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, even Punisher.

Technically, he's not a Defender, but you include him when you talk about the others because he's from the Marvel Netflix era.

In a surprising twist, Marvel has actually been pretty clear about what's canon and what's not canon right now.

So we'll break it all down and I'll explain what I think all these other teasers for Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and Iron Fist actually mean, because they really want you to think that they're coming back.

And I do think that they have a plan for actually bringing them back.

All they gotta do now is tell us when they're bringing the Agents of SHIELD characters back.

Seriously, just tell us when they're coming back.

We're actually going to be getting episodes of this pretty soon, so we don't have to wait that long.

I'll be doing videos week to week just like I did during the Netflix era.

So be sure to subscribe to get everything if you're brand new to the channel.

The other real big reminder is that in a couple days, we're supposed to get that first Fantastic Four trailer in shiny HD footage.

So, of course, I will do all the videos for that whatever Marvel winds up releasing because we are in the middle of Super Bowl week.

There'll be a bunch of trailers coming.

But if you didn't see it recently, Charlie Cox has been doing all kinds of interviews for Daredevil Born Again.

He said that they would have what he called some fun cameos during Daredevil Born Again Season 1.

Now, this isn't just a Season 1 thing, though.

They start filming Season 2 really soon and they'll release that next year.

So there'll be ton of cameos during Season 2 as well.

And if they do Season 3, which I think they will.

Marvel's whole change behind the scenes, the way they're redoing a lot of the TV shows now, is they're planning for multiple seasons ahead of time.

Not waiting till like the last possible minute, so we don't have to wait two, three years between seasons anymore.

Charlie Cox didn't say exactly which characters would be cameoing because the Marvel snipers were on him, just that there would be fun cameos.

Right after he did that, one of the Marvel social accounts stated that in order to get ready for Daredevil Born again to understand what's going on, you need to rewatch Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Punisher from the Netflix shows.

Basically all the Netflix Defenders era of shows.

The blanket explainer for what's still canon from all that stuff to the new stuff.

According to Marvel, when Echo was about to release last year, they said it's all still canon.

That's the easy explainer like TLDR is all canon.

Up until this point, we've been a little bit cagey about what's sacred timeline, what's not sacred timeline.

That was born of, frankly, a period at the studio where we were like, we have to stick the landing with Avengers.

It was another part of the company developing the Netflix stuff.

We were aware of what they were doing.

They were aware of what we were doing.

It was a lot.

It was a lot to balance anyway.

Some time has passed.

Now that we see actually how well integrated the stories are, we would be confident in saying it is part of the Sacred Time.

They're actually treating Daredevil Born Again more like Daredevil Season 4.

That's meant to be the vibe, just with a different title.

It's the same thing they did with X-Men 97.

Basically still X-Men the animated series.

Just different title.

That guy is Brad Winterbaum, the head of Marvel TV.

He's the one in charge of managing all the stuff with all the TV shows.

He's one of Kevin Feige's chief lieutenants now.

He's the one that made the call with Kevin Feige to officially canonize everything from the Marvel Netflix era.

The reason why Punisher season 1 and season 2 are important to Daredevil Born Again is because Punisher, in The Traitors, as you see, is one of the main characters during the new season.

He's also supposed to be back during season 2 next year.

And now there's talk of them doing a new Punisher revival series after this, which would also be kind of like Punisher Born Again, but effectively Punisher season 3, for those of you that want to see them do more Punisher.

Pretty easy to say that he'll also be back in other TV series in the future, other movies eventually too.

When it comes to the other Defenders characters like Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, their shows, we've actually already seen some literal references to them in the Daredevil Born Again trailer.

Luke Cage is the most obvious one.

There's a huge Easter egg for him, literally and metaphorically huge, because it's a giant billboard for Harlem's Paradise in Times Square.

The club from the Luke Cage series that he took over at the end of season two when he started running Harlem.

One of the interesting things about Luke Cage is that he ran against Kingpin for Mayor when they were doing this storyline from the comics that they're adapting for Daredevil Born Again season one.

Kingpin had been a mayor for a little while when he did this, but they could use this as a way to bring Luke Cage back if they want to and have him run against Kingpin for Mayor in a couple years.

The way that Mike Colter talked about it, he'd been booked doing other TV shows for a long time the last couple of years, but his latest one just ended and said that he'd be happy to come back to Marvel if the story is good.

Then putting this giant Luke Cage Easter egg in the trailer, all this stuff makes it sound like Marvel does plan to bring him back eventually.

Why would you point people towards a big thing for the Luke Cage series if you weren't planning on invoking a lot of Luke Cage eventually?

My assumption just based on the way everything's been going behind the scenes, Luke Cage doesn't have a cameo in season one, but maybe we see him actually show up on screen in season two briefly.

Next big person is Jessica Jones coming back.

This actually goes back a couple years ago, right after they announced they were doing a new Daredevil series on Disney Plus, like right after he debuted again during the Spider-Man No Way Home movie.

Originally way back at that time before Marvel made a ton of changes behind the scenes and totally reorganized their business model for how they make TV shows and canceled a bunch of stuff.

Jessica Jones was a way bigger part of the overarching plot.

Originally, Daredevil was going to be a much bigger part of the Echo series before they winnowed that down and deleted one of the episodes.

And during that, he was going to be looking for Jessica Jones.

We never found out why he was looking for her, only that it was meant to set up Daredevil finding her, like her actually coming back on screen during the events of Daredevil Born Again Season 1.

That was when Born Again Season 1 was still 18 episodes and they were going to do it more like a legal drama, more of like what you saw him doing in court on She-Hulk, which is less jokes.

Kevin Feige decided that whole vibe for the show was complete trash and they rebooted the reboot of Daredevil.

Now we're getting the better version of that show.

They removed a bunch of Daredevil stuff from Echo and then totally changed the plot for Born Again Season 1 and also sounds like removed a lot of the Jessica Jones stuff from both of those storylines.

So it sounds like she's not a big part of Season 1.

Maybe Matt references her a couple times and then they wait till Season 2 to bring her back as well too.

But everything from Jessica Jones Season 1 to Season 3 are still canon to the MCU now.

At the end of Jessica Jones Season 3, the whole idea is that she kind of goes back to being a regular PI working at alias investigations.

Only now Patsy Walker has become full comic book Hellcat.

She gets thrown in prison in The Raft where Baron Zemo is in present day.

She wound up reconnecting with Luke Cage finally and they started to deal with her PTSD from the Purple Man, David Tennant's character.

Still one of the best villains that Marvel has ever done so far.

When she comes back, she'll probably just be helping Matt with whatever villain he's dealing with in season two or season three.

Also with Kingpin because they tease that the Kingpin story in season one is going to set up something much bigger long term and they'll start going mad with power.

They'll become a much bigger villain in the scope of the MCU.

My early guess right now is that just implies that they're going to turn Kingpin into a big defenders character and they'll bring the defenders back together to face him at some point and it'll be like what they should have done for defender season one, but it will effectively kind of be like defender season two and they might just do that during a future season of Daredevil.

One of the problems with Kingpin being the big defenders villain though is that Daredevil kind of already took him down and if he took him down on his own with his help in just his series then why would the defenders need to team up to face him.

So I think their fix for that is the Kingpin has a much bigger plan.

He's much more powerful in the present day of the MCU now.

When it comes to bringing Iron Fist back, there's already actually been a pretty big Easter egg walking around in the Daredevil born again trailer footage.

It's literally Bullseye way back during Daredevil season 3 after Kingpin crushed his spine.

They give him a version of Bullseye's comic book origin.

So during the post credit scene, Dr.

Kenji Oyama, person in the comics who developed the method for bonding adamantium to people's skeletons leading to Weapon X and Wolverine eventually.

He's the doctor in this post credit scene giving Bullseye his new metal spine.

Now in the comics, it's an adamantium spine, but way back when this originally aired, Marvel didn't have the rights to use adamantium because Fox still had the rights to all the X-Men stuff.

So at the time in the MCU, they said that Bullseye's new spine was made from Cognium, which is from the comics, but it was made by Oracle, a company owned by Iron Fist through his Rand Corporation.

So Iron Fist was responsible for Bullseye's new spine, which he's running around in, attacking Daredevil with.

All that stuff is still canon right now in present day, and a lot of you have asked, though, if they had the adamantium teaser in the Captain America Brave New World trailer, does that mean that Bullseye can get his adamantium spine now?

My assumption is they probably don't care about that, and they'll just let him still have his Cognium spine.

They'll just stay the same.

They're also supposed to be bringing back an ancient version of Iron Fist during the Black Panther series later this year, Eyes of Wakanda.

Not the Danny Rand version, but an ancient version.

They didn't say which one from the comics, just one from ancient history.

They also just introduced the Iron Fist from the 1800s during What If Season 3.

I literally did episode videos for that back in December when they aired.

This kid during the Shang-Chi Western episode is meant to be Li Jun-Fan from the comics, who was Iron Fist during that era.

Also, big Easter egg for Bruce Lee in real life.

His name in real life was Li Jun-Fan.

He just changed it to Bruce Lee when he came to America.

So, it's kind of them, we can get the camera saying Bruce Lee became Iron Fist.

Like this little kid is meant to be a version of young Bruce Lee.

Finn Jones has talked about coming back in the MCU and how he wants to do a more legit version of Heroes for Hire with Luke Cage, like a totally different TV show.

But even if Marvel doesn't want to give them their own show, they can still bring them back and just say that they've been doing Heroes for Hire, so they've been that team for the last couple years in the MCU and people are just finding out about it now.

But everyone, let me know in the comments.

If they're going to wait till Daredevil Born Again Season 2 or Season 3 to bring a lot of these Defenders characters back in cameos outside of Punisher, he's coming back in Season 1, but not everybody.

What do you actually want their storyline to be?

And do you think they're building Kingpin up to be more of a Defenders level villain?

Well, they'll have to team up in order to take him down.

One of the other options too is that they turn him into a bigger Spider-Man level villain, which I think that they want to do because Sony actually technically does have the rights to use Kingpin in the movies.

Vincent D'Onofrio said it's kind of a weird, tricky rights situation when it comes to using Kingpin in the movies versus the TV shows.

Marvel has the TV rights.

They can use him on the TV shows just fine, but when it comes to the movies, they have to get Sony involved for that.

I'm not expecting a Spider-Man cameo during Daredevil Born Again, but I do think we'll see Daredevil and Spider-Man team up at some point in the movies.

Maybe Spider-Man 4, maybe not till Spider-Man 5.

We'll see.

There's a bunch of big stuff coming up this week.

The Fantastic Four trailer is supposed to be coming Tuesday morning.

Of course, I will do all the videos for that.

Tuesday morning.

It's also coming this week.

Super Bowl trailers.

Make sure to enable alerts for my channel so you don't miss any of that stuff because it's going to be crazy.

Tuesday morning is crazy.

I thought I was going to I thought they was dropping it during the Super Bowl.

No, I told you they dropped in on the fourth.

Oh, Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord.

Boys, we're about to be in the Golden Age.

Get ahead of that Super Bowl shit because you know everybody's going to be dropping something at the Super Bowl.

That's true.

It's more Superman shit for the Super Bowl.

So they probably like, let's get ahead of these niggas.

We about to be in the Golden Age again, y'all.

We about to be in the Golden Age again.

Oh, no, we can't even hear you.

All right.

Just to, I always try to mute when the video is playing.

Just to kind of answer the question from the video, when would we start seeing some more of those characters if we do see some of those characters?

I don't think that it would be, I think that we'll see, like Punisher alone for season one is fine.

I think that's all that you really need.

Maybe if they wanted to introduce another villain or such, they could, but I don't really feel like there's a need to introduce any defenders members in season one.

In season two, we might start to get a couple of them.

So if they have already handed out Luke Cage, then we may get Luke Cage in season two, maybe Jessica Jones or Iron Fist in season two.

But I think after that, what they should do is move Kingpin into a bigger, I do agree with that.

I agree with everything that he said in that.

I think Kingpin should have a bigger role.

If it's too tricky to do him for movies right now, to me, that's even fine.

Because I think that you do need somebody, like I love Daredevil in TV shows.

I don't really feel like, I feel like we can get cameos of Daredevil in movies, but we don't necessarily need to have a Daredevil movie at this current point.

And I think that's a good heavy hitter or like semi-heavy hitter to have for the televisions, somebody that you can just kind of count on to do well.

Like how we maybe will look at Spider-Man for the movies, or back when Robert Downey Jr.

was around, like Iron Man for the movies, or when it comes to X-Men, doing anything with Wolverine, Hugh Jackman's Wolverine.

It's kind of like a Deadpool, same thing.

I think that is something for, they need to try to get characters that filled that role for the TV show.

So I think Daredevil is fine to be that role.

If they want to do four, five, six, seven, eight seasons with the Daredevil, it'll be, that could be something that could potentially get Marvel a little bit more stimulated on the TV show front.

I do think breaking it up with a Defenders series would make logical sense.

If you build Wilson Fisk up to being like a bigger bad, a more problematic bad, also somebody who could potentially have cameos.

But if you could bring him up to be in a bigger bad, then you would need a larger force to be able to combat him.

I don't think it doesn't make sense to do Avengers, right?

Like, why would you have Avengers for Kingpin?

Maybe it could be something that could eventually escalate the way that would make sense, but a way just simpler and more digestible way of doing it, just had a Defenders.

So I do think that it would be good to have Avengers movies, Defenders TV series.

If they do, they just got to do it right though.

Like, I'm not excited to see Luke Cage.

I don't think anybody here is excited to see Luke Cage, given how the Netflix series went.

Jessica Jones.

I know that's like a 50-50 for a lot of people.

Iron Fist, maybe also a little bit of a 50-50.

So, I don't, I want to see them be utilized in maybe a television cameo kind of sense, where if we have Daredevil, you know, Luke Cage appears in Daredevil.

If we do, I don't think Echo did well enough to have a season two, but, you know, if they introduce another character, like they said, Punisher is possibly soon to follow up.

Maybe having the Luke Cage pair, like just a cameo, excuse me, of Luke Cage and a Punisher.

Anything that kind of would suffice a television series that they would make around a stronger character, I think that would be a great role for people like Luke Cage, Jessica Jones.

Iron Fist is really popular.

I don't know, like just the comic book character alone, I just know that that whole thing is really popular for the most part.

Iron Fist may get another shot at another series, then that would just be another example if that's the case.

I'm not really the most excited for that either.

But I do think they need to wait at least till season three to give, and I mean like the end of season three, to give us a full look at the Defenders and Daredevil.

I don't really want to see them too soon.

Yeah, I agree with that.

My whole thing is, if we can get a...

That first half has to be a catch up with Daredevil, with everything that's going on.

They can wait to do the Defenders season three if they're...

Because we got to get through this born again arc.

So honestly, get through the born again arc, and then season three, then you could bring in the Defenders if you want to bring Michael Coulter back, Jessica Jones and all them to reprise their roles.

Just not the guy that played Iron Fist.

He was terrible.

You didn't like him?

I think it was more so probably just a story.

His story is fucking atrocious.

Outside of Daredevil and Punisher, it wasn't really like...

Jessica Jones was good.

It was the first season of this.

I thought it was already...

Yeah.

That first season was cool, but everything else.

All right, so I thought this was gonna be more excitement, I guess.

I guess not.

I mean, but think about it like this.

If you just kind of want an exciting point to kind of land on with it.

When we got Avengers and the cinematic universe, it really opened the flood, like the floodgates for a lot of strong MCU content, right?

So now that we have everything back over to Disney and Marvel, us possibly introducing the defenders, if done right, could possibly open the floodgates for the television shows as well.

So you could get a lot of characters.

If this goes well, you can get a lot of characters that you maybe will want to see more of, maybe even X-Men characters.

They could possibly put some lower level characters like that on the TV level.

And I think that the potential is very exciting.

Whether we could actually get to that point, we got to wait and see.

Yes, we do.

All right.

We have that new animated Spider-Man.

I can't remember what is...

Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

How have y'all been feeling about this?

They dropped two episodes.

We got some people online, obviously, that are upset because they did some race swapping of different characters.

It's a different universe.

Shut up.

It is a different universe.

Even how Spidey even gets his powers is completely different than how it happens in the comic books, if I'm not mistaken.

It doesn't matter.

The core thing is he gets bit by a dad on Spider.

Yeah, but it's a different universe.

Dr.

Strange has a pull up when he gets the Spider, and it looks like Dr.

Strange was fighting some venom type of thing.

And it looked like that Dr.

Strange wasn't even a part of that universe, because he was like, oh, I'm not supposed to be here.

He could have been a part of the universe, and he just teleported somewhere he wasn't supposed to be, or he was multiverse or traveling through the multiverse.

But I was going to say that, yeah, probably.

It's probably been in the Cumberbatch, Dr.

Strange.

Could be.

They got his outfit is so fucking cold, but it's just, I don't.

I've been trying to figure out what it is that really has me super excited about this show.

Not a lot happened in that first, those first two episodes, but in those first two episodes, they were able to give me an origin story.

They were able to immerse me in the world that Spider-Man is living in and the characters that he frequently talks to and who's his friends, his families, the people that he cares about the most.

But main thing out of all, they fucking are able to, what is the word, manifest or get the essence of what Spider-Man is in the comics and able to one for one put that in the show.

I don't know if y'all felt that way, but I feel like this is probably some of the most Spider-Man content that I've seen in some time.

And I'm not saying that Tom Holler doesn't give off the vibe of Spider-Man.

It does.

But obviously, they took some differences.

They made some different little changes and everything there.

I think this Spider-Man is probably the best iteration so far, as of recently, to me, at least outside of Miles Boralus.

But that's because I just like Miles Boralus.

How y'all feel, though?

The first two episodes are really solid.

I like the different way they went about with Dr.

Strange and how Spider-Man got his powers.

And you got to understand, this is a whole multiverse thing.

Like, they show...

So there's similarities between both multiverses, just like the back-to-back scene of when Tom Holland's Spider-Man saw Iron Man, Robert Downey's character, Tony Stark, when he saw Tony Stark, when he went into his apartment.

Same scene, same way.

It's just the only person that was different was Tony Stark and it was Harry Osborn, which was really dope because it's like you shows there's similarities in these universes, but there's also differences.

Every...

They're running with the multiverse theory, animated and live action, and they're doing a real good job with it.

To be able to say, hey, even though this is animated, it's still canon with the MCU.

So I like the fact that even at the end of episode two, it left you with a cliffhanger making wanting more for episode three when Harry is like, I see what you did on camera, buddy.

So it's going to explain a lot.

Norman, Harry, Norman, you know what I mean?

You love spoiling stuff.

I'm going to say, yo, nigga T just ramblin.

I ain't seen nothing yet.

He's just giving me like, okay.

Yeah.

I feel like that should be our home to watch the damn latest episodes and stuff.

Yeah.

I'll be thinking we went ahead and watched it.

I'm so sorry.

No, I mean, we did, but we don't know if the people that's watching did.

They should have watched it already.

Damn.

Y'all heard it first.

Y'all heard it here first.

But my whole thing is, but I didn't really spoil it too much.

I said, I see what you did, buddy.

He could have done whatever.

You don't know.

But yeah, everything that's going on for the storyline, it does leave you to imagine what they're going to do next.

So I'm looking forward to the next several episodes.

I wish it would release two at a time instead of going now once a week, because now it's like I'm just waiting for a 30-minute episode now.

I like that they dropped off with a bang though.

Two episodes was a lot of nice content.

How about y'all though?

How y'all feeling?

I have not seen it.

Oh, all right.

Yeah, we was all supposed to watch it, huh?

Very much.

How about you, Croco?

Yeah.

So, Saig, the very first thing that you said, you kind of, it kind of hit me when you said that because I didn't realize it, but that is kind of the same question that popped up for me.

You just kind of like, like, it's like, I finally heard it out loud, but it was like in my head in a way before.

It's like, what is it about this series that is this kind of like drawing me in so much?

It's corkier.

It's got a different design, kind of like that archery design to it.

It's kind of like the comics and yeah, it's like a, it's like a, yeah, it's really is.

It's like kind of like just straight up out of a comic book.

Maybe one that would even, a lot of people, you know, might say would even be geared more towards like children, like the real children in comic books.

But you know, I do agree with you guys.

I do really, I like it and I'm very interested in it.

I think the pacing is a little fast, but I do think that it is being executed well.

I kind of, what I thought about, and I was kind of sitting here looking at it while I was listening to you guys, I think what it is, is it really does follow, if you look at all like the Spider-Man stuff that's come out over the years, Unlimited, Ultimate, the new animated Spider-Man, the one that came on MTV.

You look at all of like the different Spider-Man that's come out in like the 2000s up until today, it just feels like the next iteration of one of those shows.

Like if it perfectly feels like, all right, what can't like, the lot of those shows is kind of like, what can we do different from the last?

We don't want to be anything like the last Spider-Man animated show.

And so like, sometimes it will work, sometimes it wouldn't, you know, but it was always something that could kind of grab people's attention.

So like, as an example, the MTV, the new animated Spider-Man, whatever it was called, that was on MTV, it wasn't really gravitated to very strongly.

But the Drake Bell Spider-Man was kind of gravitated to a lot more, a lot stronger.

I feel like, like again, they look, they didn't want to, when you look at the Drake Bell version versus those, some of those previous versions, even the 90s version, is very different from those versions.

This feels like it's very different from even the Drake Bell's version, which was already different from the ones that came previously before it.

So I think that part is just something that works really well with Spider-Man, always trying to kind of make a more unique animated Spider-Man just works well.

That's why I really thought that we would get a Miles Morales animated show.

We did in the sense of the movies, but I thought that we would get like that would be in show form.

It just happened to come in movie form.

But I think that that is the part that is, it's comforting.

It's like they not strain too much away from the formula that's been working with Spider-Man.

I think the differences that they made, like some of the characters' colors and just the best friends and the different things like that, that they have here is very refreshing.

You don't know.

If you're a Spider-Man fan, you typically, especially an old school Spider-Man fan, you typically know how the story of Peter Parker and Spider-Man goes.

With this, you really don't.

There's some names that you're familiar with, but there's so many elements that's just very different as well from what you traditionally know, that it gives you a fresh spin on the character.

There's something to be excited about.

I mean, when you talk about doing a Spider-Man origin and all of that, it's like how many times have you seen that?

It goes to the point that James Gunn makes it on DC, a little tight tangent.

But one of the things that he says is, you've already seen the origin of this character a thousand times.

I'm not doing another movie or series with that origin story.

And this, you get that origin story.

But again, you don't really know what to expect.

So I am, I'm very much enjoying that, even though it's very unique.

Nino, I know you said you didn't see it yet.

It's very different.

It's not a traditional Spider-Man series that you know, the story, the plot, the animation design, the character design, everything is very different.

I was, the first episode, I was kind of like turned off.

I didn't really need to be turned off.

I just was being stubborn.

So just really try to, and that's for anybody that hasn't seen it as listening as well, just really try to have patience because the uniqueness of it is something that I think we'll be able to draw you in.

But I like it.

I really do.

I really have enjoyed it so far and I am looking forward to more.

Real quick, just like Croco was saying, fucking, I'm sorry, there's new characters in there.

We already know names such as, and I'm just gonna drop this in there, Amadeus Cho, which was introduced in this series.

So, like Nino was saying, this story is a completely new and refreshing story, a new take on the Spider-Man series.

We don't even know if Amadeus is gonna get his powers or if he's going to have a different type of background.

We don't know how the Kirk Conner thing, I'm guessing we all know where the end goal is.

The fun thing is we don't know all of the things in the middle of it.

And I think one thing that I'm pretty sure is Nino that you talked about previously in Spider-Man Joints, you want Spider-Man to be more of a nerd.

You wanna see more of that aspect where he's into his sciences or his maths and really tapping into that.

This series really does a good job of doing that without it being boring, without it actually feeling like a test or you're in school sitting here watching the lecture or anything like that.

Actually doing it in an innovative way, using it to push forward the plot.

And then you see more of, they flesh out more of the dichotomy between Peter Parker and Spider-Man, the dilemma that Peter Parker has with being Spider-Man and the dilemma Spider-Man has with being Peter Parker.

There's two dilemmas that he has to deal with type of thing.

And they interweave that perfectly, I'm not gonna lie, where you see that he's letting his friends down or letting people down that's close to him because he's deciding he has to be Peter Parker or Spider-Man.

He has to save niggas and everything like that.

I think you would really like it though.

I'm gonna talk to her.

Yes, sir.

They got two joints that you could, they're not that long either, what, like 28 minutes?

20, 30 minutes, 30 minute episodes.

Side note, Deon Fox is going to the Spurs, Zaqua Vines going back to the Kings.

Okay.

What about Chris Paul?

I was being so serious, bro.

Nobody's worried about Chris Paul.

Chris Paul, if anything, is gonna help Deon Fox.

He's going back to the Kings.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He was never with the Kings.

He was with the Kings first.

No, he wasn't.

No, he wasn't.

Timberwolves.

Yeah.

Yes.

That's right.

Oh, that is right.

I thought he was with the Kings first.

Yeah, you bugging.

Zaqua Vines on the Kings, that's fucking disgusting.

I wanted the Lakers to pick him up, but we're not even going to talk about NBA Trays because they're going fucking.

Lakers was talking about all week how the ratings and the viewership was down.

Oh, he has to.

What's the name?

Not Adam Silver.

What's the nigga name?

Which one?

The who?

The new one?

Not Adam Silver.

Yeah.

That is him.

Adam Silver.

Yeah, Adam Silver.

Oh, I thought that was the older one.

All right.

That's David Stern.

The old nigga.

He passed away.

Yeah.

Yeah, I do agree.

I do agree, though, D.

I think that the shakeups is going to help bring more ratings.

I mean, that's really the part that I think is the biggest one.

Do you think-

Like, they did this for the NBA.

I was saying, yeah, I'm going to definitely check this show out.

But when you mentioned Amadeus Cho, do you think the MCU could take this direction?

Because I know he appears after Secret Wars.

It could be-

So are they doing the same thing that DC is doing, where the person who they introduce as the voice actor can potentially show up in a live action film?

I don't think so.

James Gunter is doing that because he do enough of video games.

That is one thing that I do think he should-

I do think we need to see more of that.

We need to see them try to experiment with more of that if the person fits.

Because look, you hire them once.

You're knocking out some things for them on the animated side.

They may never come back to the animated side, but they may be able to transition well over into the live action side.

You know what I thought that would work well for?

The dude that played, I think his name was Star Killer, in The Force Unleashed for Star Wars.

Okay.

They had him do the voice acting in the animation.

I was like, yo, this game is a hit.

Why would they not make a movie around this character?

I agree.

I thought they were.

I thought that would really work, having him in there.

That was really interesting, but yeah, for sure.

Rob, I was saying, because I know Amadeus Cho shows up at the Secret Wars.

Oh, really?

In the comics, he does, and it's like maybe he could replace Hulk, but even though we got Hulk's son, it's like maybe they might bring him before.

But I mean, at that point, it's like, damn, everybody turned into a Hulk, you know?

I'm also liking, they're really tapping in to the essence of the comics, because now you're starting to see, it's just ancillary.

I'm guessing how James Gunn is treating DC, where I'll give him this.

In a Superman movie, it seems like all of these characters are just going to be intertwined within his actual movie, which I'm pretty sure is most of the time how comics would go.

You have the main superhero, obviously, and then you'll have some different superheroes that they might talk to, and get ask advice for, ask help for, and take it down a bad guy or figuring some stuff out.

All of this jazz.

And I think this show is taking stuff from James Gunn and what he's trying to do with the DC Universe and trying to implement that with the Marvel, or at least for this show, or they're just dropping characters.

You like, when they said his name, I was like, Yeah, I was, I was like, that's cold.

And we've been waiting to see this.

It could like, it could just be, let's just try to introduce more people.

We know everybody isn't like us.

That's an MCU fan.

There's people who are just strictly Marvel fans from the MCU as well.

So they could just like, to your point, Sage, they could just be like, let's just get people more acquainted with some of these characters.

So they could be a fan of them before we ever even consider anything live action.

Yeah.

All right.

We're going to end it out real quick with just a quick solo level synopsis.

Last episode, some heat.

I got to make sure I got to watch Sakamoto Days and Dragon Ball.

Fucking Daima too.

I'm pretty sure there's still a couple of episodes.

Sakamoto Days, this is the last episode.

Yeah.

Sakamoto Days is going crazy.

Solo Leveling though, since we didn't talk about that last week.

Solo Leveling been cooking.

Still cooking.

And this next episode that's going to come out next week, Good Lord Have Mercy.

I'm curious.

I know they talked in that part of the series.

Did they talk for that long?

Or did niggas talk for that long?

In the manhwa, did him and the big mage talk for a very...

I know they did talk before.

In the manhwa, yeah, they talked for a...

So the mage speaks through the orcs.

Then pretty much the episode laid off where you see the mage, but they didn't really say anything.

So this next episode will be them talking for at least half of it.

I feel like Jinwoo is going off him at the end of this episode, in the next episode, just to speed things up.

But that whole episode is going to be them talking and them fighting.

I don't see them going an episode and a half with this fight.

I see it just being like maybe 10 minutes of like straight fire, but I don't know.

Wait, what do you mean the mage?

So lovely.

Yeah, where they're at, they're in that A-Ring Dungeon.

And remember, the orcs come out and Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they move with this shit.

Yeah, they are.

I love it, too.

Yo, but Steve's point, though, if it take.

So if we started with that during last episode and this next episode doesn't conclude it and it goes into a third episode, where does that put us on for the season?

How many episodes are we getting this season?

We're getting the same amount, if I'm not mistaken, as last season.

Hold on real quick.

We're not getting a JJ.

Allen if it's going to be like this.

No, he's going to be right before.

He's a spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert.

He is going to save his mom by the end of this season.

That's how they're going to end it off.

Yeah, after he beats our baron, if I'm not mistaken, right?

The Demon King.

Yeah, because that's the way he's going to meet Homegirl.

Yep, or he already met her.

Not yet.

He hasn't met her yet.

He didn't get the four A's yet.

You're talking about Homegirl and that, and that.

Yeah, he hasn't met, yeah, before he...

Yeah, he doesn't meet her yet.

That's all I'm saying.

It's good.

It's just good.

Yeah, it's good.

Like, I'm mad at the pacing because I just want to see more, but I'm not like mad at the pacing for the pace that the series is going just overall.

Like, it's fine.

How many episodes has it been?

Five, six?

Five, two, three, four, five, six.

They've already encapsulated chapter 46 all the way to chapter 71 so far.

There's no issue with the actual pacing.

I'm just mad that like.

40 chapters?

No.

Probably.

They're probably doing more than that.

How many?

They had 12 episodes in the first one.

So if we're at six right now, we're halfway through.

So, God Almighty.

What is that?

Like 60, 70, 80 for the season?

They did 45 chapters for the first season.

They're already at 46.

What is that?

And we halfway there.

Yeah.

So like, maybe the better part is 70 on the season?

Yeah.

That's if they slow down.

Because I feel like they're going to leave it off with his mom.

Yeah, definitely leave it off with his mom waking up.

And then it's going to be like, yo, these ants, my nigga.

What chapter was that?

What is mom?

What is mom?

I need to look it up real quick.

I got you.

And like you said, that was right before the island.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because then he was like, I made more than 70.

D-Ray, it's more than 70.

It's...

They're going to get through a lot.

Chapter wise.

She woke up in chapter 89.

Yeah.

89?

Yep.

We're only, fuck it.

We two episodes away from that.

Well, hold on.

That's not bad.

That's not bad.

Cause you said they get how many...

He still has to take out the dungeon too.

Yeah.

He still has to do that.

We about to get a lot of action.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which is going to make it fine.

They're going to speed through a lot of them.

If it ends with his mom, if it ends with him with his mom, that's fine.

Because everything that you would have got before would have just been straight fighting.

Yeah.

I think they're going to start to build up the Jeju too, as well.

Like they're going to show a son after, or son after he saved his mom doing what he's doing, and then show the guilds coming up to him.

Hey yo, we need your assistance.

Boom.

Movie.

So do you think-

$100 million movie.

Before that, they'll show the, like the previous teams on the island?

I think so.

You think they'll show that in the season?

I think they'll show off a cliffhanger right before he decides, and then ends off of him deciding, yeah, I'll do it.

Boom.

This is gonna be a great season.

This is gonna be a great season.

You think they're gonna show that Rob, with like-

I think they can show a little bit, yeah, cause I'm pretty sure-

Cause they gotta do that training, too.

Remember, he was fighting against the S-rank dude from Japan.

I feel like-

They got that sparring session.

And then it's like when he doesn't go to Jeju Island, they lose a couple of people.

Some of the S-rank niggas from Japan died.

Yeah.

It's a lot before you get there.

Yeah.

I think that-

Because I think they sent, what, they sent a couple of teams, right?

It was a couple of teams before the fire duel was seen, wasn't it?

No, they were, yeah, those were the other teams to distract, to get the ants out of the cave.

And then the fire dude was sent in to go get the queen.

Gotcha.

Do you think they'll show any of that during the season?

It might be pushing it.

It might show them talking, because I can't-

I feel like they-

Was the fire dude already there?

And Sun-Jun Wu still didn't accept it?

Yeah.

Sun-Jun Wu came at the last second when he seen like on TV and shit, and he just like-

Yes.

Swapped places with a shadow soldier that he had.

And that's what everybody was like.

That's when he was like, yo, turn your cameras off.

And niggas was like, yo, this nigga just cleared all these ants and did all of this shit.

But I feel like they're going to try to up the animation for this.

So they're going to be like, yo, Jeju Island animation got to be on some Demon Slayer level shit.

It's a movie.

Which is a movie.

That translates to it's going to be a movie.

Yeah, Jeju Island itself could, that's, I'm not even lying.

That's probably like a two and a half hour movie.

Two hour movie, at least.

When they cut out a lot of shit, he's going to be doing a lot.

If they really flush out, yeah, now think about it.

If they really flush out the fights with that movie style and a movie budget, the animation is already crazy.

It's already solid.

Yo, did the animation not get better from season one?

It did.

It did.

I think that the episode with the bear-

They're leveling up, I'm telling you niggas, bro.

The episode with the bear and the elf, and then honestly, this episode, even just the orc, when he was fighting against the orcs, was clean.

I was like, this is actually really clean.

So I mean, and that's what I was saying in like, I don't know whether it was last episode or the episode before, but they do so well with the littlest of element in the show.

That is like when you get to something like Jeju Island, is it-

what are you-

they really going to polish everything.

I'm saying the fire, just if like explosions and fire and little things like that itself will look so well done that you're going to be like, this is, like you said, whoever set the Demon Slayer level, it'll be like that.

It'll be like, it'll seriously be like that, where everything feels like art.

Because even when last episode, when they cleared the dungeon, when he was going in and the fire dude led, and he cleared the path with his fire, I'm like, yo, this is a big step up from season one's animation.

And they're going to want to, I feel like they're going to really flesh out these fights too, because like, leading up to Jeju Island, everybody is sparring, everybody's training, like doing shit.

Then when you get to the island, everybody powers on display.

Yep.

Yes, this shit is going to be, it's going to be crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah, dude.

I'm excited.

I hate how long you think they're going to make us wait.

If they're doing all of that, if we have the expectation that it's going to be a little scary night.

It came out last year, didn't it?

But a movie.

Yep.

But we're, he'll probably say two years.

Earliest?

Earliest?

I'll probably say late this year, to be honest with you.

For a movie?

If they're, I don't know if they're going to be in the right.

No, no.

It took them what?

How long did it take them with this season?

It's not that much content as well.

They already have the animation.

They already have, they have, what I'm trying to get at is-

Movies is different from TV shows, though.

I understand.

But this company specifically, they have had everything lined up so perfectly, this whole entire time.

The reason why they were able to release season two so soon after they already released season one is because they had everything, they had everything lined up exactly how it's supposed to, which leads me to believe this ain't their first rodeo.

One and two, these niggas is prepared for all possibilities to maximize their income, to maximize the money that this series produces.

So we talking about season two, they might have already started shooting this shit for season three or the movie.

If they had to.

Cause season one came out and then it was like, yo, so level of season two.

And it's like, damn.

Already trailer, teaser trailer already.

Like a week after the final episode of that shit dropped.

Like we've already been, we've already been fucking recording that shit.

If they've done that for season one to season two, plus it's a lot easier because the story is completed.

A lot of these animation studios will have to do like a JJK or something like that.

They will have to wait for all of these series or even the animation studios that did Bleach and Naruto back then.

That's where we got to fill in everything.

The ball is in their court.

They got all the material they could possibly ask for and then some.

So, okay, you just mentioned JJK.

JJK is done.

When you're in the coming games, what?

We're supposed to get in this year?

Yeah.

With everything done now, how soon you think we'll get to the end of JJK animated?

I believe it's a different studio, isn't it?

I think it's a different studio.

Mapa?

Oh, Mapa.

It wouldn't be the same team, though, I'm guessing.

I'm guessing they have different teams for different things.

For whatever reason, I don't know if solo leveling, if the creators dictated a specific work regimen, how they're going to do it.

For whatever reason, this is the best that I've seen.

Mapa put some shit together.

JJK kind of came through somewhat quickly, but this solo leveling shit, this shit was quick as fuck.

I was at least expecting a whole, what was the first season of solo leveling?

They came out last year, January.

Last year.

That's like, bro, this is-

They came out a year later, they're like, yo, teaser trailer, next season will come out in a year.

So it's like, y'all niggas was damn near, y'all put out season one, and then I guess they have faith in it too.

They greenlit that shit easy.

They already knew that shit was gonna be heat.

It was like-

A1 Pictures is a studio.

A1 Pictures.

Well, it was founded by X Sunrise.

It didn't even take a whole, they technically released it three days earlier than a full year.

They technically-

It's a subsidiary.

It's a subsidiary of Aniplex.

Oh, Aniplex?

Yeah.

Whatever.

They got they ducks in a row.

We about to see a Netflix documentary about the labor.

Yeah.

They fucking slaving these niggas.

They gon be like, it's gon be in a textbook somewhere, like, you know what the animators, the solo leveling went through?

They kept them chained in the basement just to get that content out.

Working, fuck it.

Yo, we gon get that movie before GTA 6.

Probably.

Which is wild, but I got to honestly see that.

We spent a good solo leveling season one and two and a movie.

And a teaser for trailer for season three before GTA 6 that was announced last year.

These niggas is going crazy.

Imagine we had the same work laws as they do over there.

Yeah, niggas would have been marching for real.

40 is my max, 40 hours a week is my max nigga.

They'd be like, 40?

What's 40 to this 80?

Times that by two.

And you think you get time and a half of overtime?

And they give it to over time, yeah.

Niggas gonna march.

He, he, whoo.

Nah, man.

That would be crazy though if it's the end of the year turnaround.

Right.

I'm curious, man.

They probably go announce it after the season.

I'm pretty sure they're getting better numbers in there, getting in season one.

Yo, but like not even being funny.

Like, let's take both of y'all points, like both you and T's point.

Even if it's not the end of the year, right?

If they turned around and said next spring, that's still like quick as shit.

That's quicker to damn near demon slayer, ain't it?

It's been almost every series I could think of.

Like, nigga.

I wouldn't even mind that because like, yo, first, the second season came around quick and y'all delivering on animation and action.

If y'all taking your time for season three and it's getting crazier, come on.

What type of tumultuous shit are you putting your workers through?

They ain't even going to have fingers by the time.

And it got to be worth it because these niggas is dropping heat under these conditions.

Niggas working with a gun today.

For real.

Draw, bitch.

Man, oh man.

But yeah, like we've been saying the past couple of weeks, this year was kind of slow, obviously, the holidays and everything like that late last year as well.

But now you're starting to see everything is picking up.

Invincible is dropping this week, if I'm not mistaken.

We have four days left.

We have the new Fantastic Four trailer dropping Tuesday.

I'm pretty sure one of these days we will come into the stream yard to the drawing board and have a quick video to talk about either the trailer and or the invincible first episode.

First three episodes.

Oh, they're dropping the first three?

Yes.

We might as well wait till next Sunday for this to happen.

We can talk about Fantastic Four though.

We can at least talk about it.

We can do a review of Fantastic Four, but we're going to need time for the episode.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's great.

Next week's episode is going to be about that.

Yeah.

It should be like an hour long too.

It's cost a little leveling.

That should be.

Yeah.

It's like 45 minutes per episode.

So that's a movie worth of.

I love when they do that.

It was literally like we literally basically go and watch a movie this weekend.

And there's going to be enough to talk about from that for the whole episode.

We got so much content.

You can tell on the smile on my face, y'all.

I'm so happy for all this, man.

The way you lit up, you said three.

All right.

These past couple of episodes been difficult, niggas.

It ain't been shit besides Dragon Ball Diamond.

It's only so much we can talk about that.

It's only so much.

Only so much.

I'm just saying, y'all need to tap into Sakamoto days.

I'm just saying.

Sakamoto days.

It is.

It's good.

It's good.

Yo, son.

Boyo?

Boyo?

This man a whole nother man?

I got to rewatch that joint.

I haven't fully, I then wasn't really able to see the full fight that they had, but the nigga look like he had the crazy backstory.

I ain't gonna lie.

Bro, it wasn't real.

I'm gonna watch that tonight.

All I know is my man's like his abilities is ridiculous.

My man use angles to take his opponents down.

That's what I'm like, oh.

But it's setting up for this next episode coming next Saturday where let's just say the, the, the.

Don't be spoiling shit, nigga.

The chains are off.

That's all I gotta say.

The chains are off.

Thank you.

Okay.

I do have one question for y'all.

We could be quick about it, too.

There was, there was a, like a kind of like a rumor or a leak that the Russo brothers would also be coming back for more than just these Avengers movies.

How do y'all feel about that?

I'm happy about it.

I'm good.

I'm cool with that.

I'm cool with it, but I kind of want to see some different direction with the mutant saga.

I can see that.

Like I understand, I don't want the mutants to come in, and then you have a mutant that acts like Drax, someone that acts like Thor, somebody that act like-

Well, that's James Gunn.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

ITT.

But I want all these mutants, like brother of mutants, they've been going through the most out of anybody.

It's going to be a lot of philosophical shit for this movie.

I mean, I'm not sure of the Russo's track record, but I mean, they were-

They did the first Infinity Saga.

Yeah.

What other movies did they do, though?

No, those were the only-

and the Avengers movies, if I'm not mistaken.

I think they introduced more drama.

Yeah, I think other directors.

I think they're able to encapsulate on the higher stakes in the bigger movies.

Like, that's why Infinity War and Endgame was so fucking good, cause he was able to teeter the line between the two type of thing.

And I don't think it's gonna be every movie, from the leak at least, or the rumor.

I don't think it's gonna be every movie.

It's just gonna be probably like the bigger ones, the ones that have the higher stakes type of thing.

So I can see how, yeah, Avengers type of thing.

I can see why they got them for those bigger movies, and then have like your Ryan Kugler's on the side doing some other ones, like a Storm movie, Cyclops.

You know what I need to bring in?

Who?

Zack Snyder.

That's what I've been saying.

I would love to see Zack Snyder in Marvel.

The way Watchmen looked and was directed, if you give Zack Snyder an X-Men comic and say use these panels.

It'll look just like an X-Men comic.

They got to develop the story more.

Zack's storytelling isn't the best.

Like his idea is a little too wacky.

Yeah, but Marvel isn't the worst at getting good story writers.

You're right.

But I'm saying like if you, because a lot of directors want, oh, I want this and this and this, like give Zack Snyder a good writer.

We got to keep the drama and keep the stakes high.

I really just want him for the action and all of that too, for real.

Somebody, I just seen something from Screen Rant.

They says Zack Snyder would be perfect for the World War Hulk movie.

And I just realized that would be absolutely crazy.

Nigga, do you know what they told him about Man of Steel?

They said that it was by size of destruction.

He had a scene in the movie that they had to cut with the Kryptonians that came down to get Superman.

He dropped them off at the Great Wall of China and they was destroying shit across the world.

They was like, yeah, you got too much going on, nigga.

This is like, but that's why we watched it, because this is what's going to happen.

The Kryptonians came down here.

You give him a World War Hulk movie with all these characters and you let him go crazy with Hulk.

Fight scenes alone about to be stupid.

And it's before Secret Wars too, so you could really fuck up the whole entire world and just reboot it.

Before Secret Wars?

Yeah, it's supposed to.

They're supposed to start recording.

I thought Secret Wars came out next year.

Doomsday comes out next year.

Yeah.

Secret Wars comes out the year following, if I'm not mistaken.

Doomsday comes out next year.

What movie do we have leading up for Doomsday?

Fantastic Four this year.

We got Thunderbolts.

We got Captain America.

Spider-Man is supposed to be after Doomsday.

Spider-Man is supposed to be after Doomsday, and Doomsday is going to push the story supposedly of Spider-Man, the next Spider-Man film.

Yeah.

World War Hog.

Get that shit to Zack Snyder.

Boy.

But I really want to see X-Men movies.

I don't know.

I just want to see them more on like, what's that Christopher Nolan movie, bro?

Inception.

Okay.

Right.

Like, I just want to see a lot of like, the high stakes, the high energy shit.

Like, we already got like some forms of Inception with the Dr.

Strange movies and all that.

But bro, it's the X-Men, nigga.

Like, come on.

I get that.

I do get that.

Just more tense, like, high octane and tenseness.

I mean, that's what you get with them in the comic books.

Y'all hear it first on this show, if they hire that goofy ass nigga that did them Thor movies to do X-Men.

So help me, God.

Taito Waikiti is never coming back to the Marvel.

If he touches another, if he touches another character, I don't give a damn if it's Squirrel Girl.

I will chuck that nigga.

No, I don't think that.

I don't think that.

They, one thing that they do try to do both with DC and Marvel is they try to find people who kind of like outside of what DC is doing now, but they try to find people that kind of like match the style.

Whereas with Marvel, it's more, they do that with Marvel as well, but Marvel takes more liberties.

Like them going and getting Sam Raimi again for Spider-Man.

It's like, I think that was to me, at least that was more like a ballsy decision.

Just because it's like, even though we know that he's done it successfully and it's been something where like, it really kind of gave a great feel and the atmosphere and everything was incredible from the original Spider-Mans that he did.

For the MCU, it was a little ballsy to me, just for like the direction that everything was going.

So I like, I don't know, but they do generally seem to try to find outside of YTT.

That, outside of YTT, because as lover hate James Gunn, James Gunn did fit the fill of Guardians of the Galaxy.

Like when you think about the comic book, he did fit the vibe and fill it out.

The Russo's handling things like the Iron Man stuff, the Captain America stuff, and the Infinity Saga, and as well as at the Avengers movie, they have more of that drama fill to them.

And when you look at those comic books, they have more of that drama fill to them.

So I feel like whenever they do decide to do for the X-Men, I do think that they will try to look at more of the sentiments and feelings and emotions that's drawn off from the comic book.

So whether it's the Russo brothers or it's not the Russo brothers, I think they really will.

I agree with you, D.

It would be great if they could get Zack Snyder because Zack Snyder does feel that drama fill.

And you know what's crazy about this?

With him feeling like the drama and all that, all his movies, like the costume design is always top tier.

Perfect.

Like he not gonna have the X-Men and fucking leather cargoes going around New York.

He gonna make sure they look like how they supposed to look too.

If they were to get another Wolverine, he would be like Henry Cavill.

Yes.

Like you say, he loves to do drama well.

And it's like, bro, like, I don't know.

There's other directors out there, but that's just, I just like his directing styles as far as action and action sequences and things of that nature.

But, and I feel like, you know what was different with the X-Men, I feel like you have so many different elements that you could build from.

Like you have the team dynamic, obviously.

You have action, you have adventure, but you also have like horror, you know?

Yeah.

Like, bro, these niggas have wings growing out their back.

They have people that are with blue skin that can teleport.

Like Brandon, we have aliens and all that.

But all these aliens seem to be like throw away cannon fodder aliens just for certain fight scenes.

Like when you really dive into it, like X-Men movie can really touch on every single genre.

It can.

And here's the thing.

That's why I like even when something isn't a success, I think studios should look at what came out before it, even if it isn't a success.

Because if you notice, Warner Brothers started to realize that it just was too late and they weren't getting the best people to write stories behind it.

But remember, right before Marvel got the rights back, or 21st Century Fox, whatever one it was, to have X-Men, right before they got the rights back, they did a horror movie for the X-Men.

They did a straight up, yeah, right.

They did a straight, it was a straight up horror movie.

So I think that they started to see that.

And that's where Marvel needs to understand, okay, what they started to do, we need to start with, but we need to do better.

And if they were to do that, to your point, Nino, they would be able, that would be the smart thing to do, would be able to look at the X-Men from every genre.

Did the Agatha series tell us that they get that?

You could make an argument, because we did get a X-Men in the Agatha series.

So did they start to see where they could use those characters in different ways?

Maybe, I hope so.

I hope we do see evolution with that.

And I agree, X-Men is perfect.

Wait, which X-Men character did we get in Agatha?

Y'all got mad at me the last time I said it.

What?

Death?

No.

Wiccan.

Wiccan, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So, I don't know.

Maybe Marvel does see the opportunity and possibility.

I hope they do, because I do agree with Nino.

It's such, X-Men should be like a slam dunk because of that.

Just that one principle.

The fact that it can carry every genre.

Yo, and with what they bring in the X-Men, I don't know if they're going to do it like they're part of that Fantastic Four universe or if they got their own part of their own universe or whatever.

But like, do you feel like they should bring in a new Charles Xavier?

Or should they have it like X-Men 97 where it's like, you've got like Cyclops leading the team.

You've got Wolverine Storm.

And I feel like that takes off, you know, that builds more character for the younger.

I think they should interpolate both aspects.

But I also think that they should get the newer X-Men comics where I believe Professor X has the X helmet.

He's gone.

He's gone right now.

Oh, he's gone right now.

Damn, I thought he was still there.

Or at least the recent ones where he had because they had Croco, wasn't it?

I'm not mistaken.

And he had the whole helmet on.

He could actually walk if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, he looked more like a cyclops a little bit.

No, you know, he really looked like what's the ultimate Reed Richards, ultimate universal.

Oh, the maker.

Yeah, he looked a lot like the maker, which I do agree.

That would be great to give us a spin where he looks where he's in that helmet and we get him walking something different from wheelchair Xavier.

And I think those stories, I think the main thing that I'm concerned about real quick and then we could end off the episode with the X-Men is I don't I don't know if Yinyaka probably because I can't remember the first couple of X-Men movies.

They know none of these X-Men movies, they were really fighting humans, were they?

They're most of the time fighting mutants.

Yeah, they're always fighting other mutants, other mutants, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think that they missed on a huge story plot within the X-Men characters, and that's their fight with mankind.

That's their, and it's such a huge part of their whole entire story.

Most of the time, they're not fighting other mutants, they're fighting people, human beings because they're creating sentinels, or they're creating all of these other different things, or you have fucking humans working with other mutants, which I guess is part of the X-Men as well.

They fight mutants, but at the same time, I hope that they at least hone in on the human aspect, the human element, and how they are such at odds with each other, and actually show that devastation from the mutant side, show Genosha fucking almost get obliterated, almost show all of the X-Men mutants, or all of the mutants get obliterated from the world, actually show them like that.

And I think that's why they got fucking, what's their face, the Russo brothers?

Because I think they're going for it all type of thing.

They're going for it all.

If they, damn, I guess they are just gonna use Hugh Jackman as the Wolverine and not bringing somebody new, but I was gonna say, do you think they should already have X-Men established in the NCU and have it be like this joint where it's like the government has been keeping tabs on them and like in front of eradicate them or should it be as like another universe?

A fallout thing.

I think with the reboot, they will have already been established because I think Secret Wars is going to introduce them to the main Marvel characters, the main MCU characters.

If I'm pretty sure some of them are already introduced to them, if I'm not mistaken, but I have to double check again.

But I think they're just going, once they reboot, once quote unquote, they snap their fingers and everything turns back to normal, all of these characters will have already been placed down in Earth.

And then at that point in time, they will act like they've already been existing this whole entire time.

Only a select few amount of people will actually know what transpired in the multiverse and how it was collapsing and all of this shit, just like in the actual Secret Wars comics.

I think Mr.Fantastic and his son were the only two people that remember, and possibly Dr.

Doom since he had the Beyonders powers.

But I think those are the only three.

But yeah, I think they're going to start off with them.

They're already going to have them.

They might do the X-Men to show how they all come together type of thing, and probably the beginning of that since it will be a new universe for them.

But yeah, I just got to see more play out.

Yeah, because I don't I can see what Sage is saying, though.

Just bring them in like that, where it's just kind of like they've been here for everyone else, you know, for the majority of everyone who knows kind of like what happened, kind of like what happened with Spider-Man, where it's just kind of like, all right, he like letting everybody know who he is in this whole Mysterio thing happened.

Now everybody like now really everybody knows who he is.

All right, we don't really need to have that anymore.

So let's just snap it to where nobody knows who he is.

They do something like an inverse for the X-Men where it's like, okay, they weren't here, but we don't really need to touch that anymore.

So let's just snap it so that they're all here.

I could see that, but I just need to see more.

Because I don't want to go over time, but I'm just trying to think because having them be from another universe is like, okay, we get it.

But I think if you want some true power scaling shit, like have Professor X like every major mutant event, he can just mind wipe niggas.

After Iron Man created Ultron, and Ultron was like you have imperfections with, you have mutants this and this, and it's never mentioned or something.

It's like now you got Ultron bots hunting down people with mutations or some shit like that.

It's like Professor X to keep mutants safe, it's like I have to mind wipe niggas just so they don't remember that we're here.

So we have to operate in secrecy now.

So it's like the past, let's say like the past, since 2015 it came out, let's say like the past 10 years, mutants been here, but people had, like there's been events with mutants, but people just don't recall them type shit.

That is pretty smart.

I like that.

And that reminds me of what they did with the scrolls, which is also why I like that, because it's like that part didn't get done really well.

So they would get a second opportunity to do that part.

It was a secret invasion, right?

That was with the scrolls?

Yep.

Yeah, like that, if you took that, but to Nino's point, you use, you take advantage of Professor Xavier's powers and you have them operate exactly as, yeah.

Cause that, I would rather them, instead like, just let's forget about the scroll and the secret invasion thing altogether and just run that back with the mutants.

I think it could be done way better and could have, it's introducing drama.

Just how when they did it with the scrolls, it introduced a level of drama.

So you get to reset this approach with the X-Men and you're introducing them with a story that entices drama with action.

Yeah, I like that.

Instead of having their beginning or their origin stories, they can utilize that in order to push the plots of their own individual movies later down the line, like they did with Spider-Man.

Yeah, it's a strategic type of play.

Plus, you start off with a fresh footing type of thing with these characters and not having to retell the same story over and over again type of thing.

So, I don't know.

I need to go write that for them, right?

I like that.

Yeah, that'd be cool.

Because, bro, I'm saying if they do that, that can show like the type of power these mutants have.

They'd be like, yo, Professor X been wiping minds for a minute, been doing this and that, like, bro.

And then that gives a new spin on Professor X, because instead of just sitting in a chair and rolling around, you think, oh, he just read two or three minds.

Like, no, he got, he went to Cerebro and like the whole world type shit.

Yeah, that's like, he is a threat.

Like you like, OK.

And he isn't even necessarily the most threatening, right?

But to show him that way and him to be that much of a threat, and he's not even the most threatening.

Yeah, now the mutants are going to the point that she was making before.

And like T just said, now they look scary.

You know, that's really intimidating and that's really scary.

So you could do a lot with that and then make them this force where it's kind of like, kind of like how everybody always feel about the Hulk.

Where it's like, you know, can you trust them really?

Like, he's so dangerous.

There's so much power.

Even if you're friendly, can you trust them to have that element with them?

And on the political side too.

Because you think world leaders like the US has people that can read minds.

Like, let's say they get our secrets.

Like, whose side are they on?

Let's say they get their own.

Like, they get Genoche, that little island.

And mutants go there and be like, yo, so what are they playing at?

Like, whose mind are they reading?

All of this, before all this and that shit.

But in one comment, like, Professor X sends Wolverine out to kill this one dude to put a mutant down, because when he looks at people, they like explode, like their faces explode.

Like, that's his mutant ability.

But the thing is, like, Professor X is like Logan, like, there's nothing we can do for him, this and this.

So Wolverine is like, goes and finds a kid in the cave, and he's like, I can feel like my body, like, burning up on the inside, like, like this is what he's doing to people, this and this.

And then it shows Wolverine coming out of the cave, like, after, you know, putting him down.

So it's like, yo, like, like, imagine, imagine a movie start off like that, like you got Wolverine putting down a fellow mutant, because now it's like, this could give us a bad rap.

We don't need this, you know, we don't need that.

Now you look at Professor X and a whole different life.

I just, I don't know, they should just, they should do something like that.

Yeah, I like that.

Right.

Last thing real quick, Cyclops needs to be more militant as well.

That's all.

That's all.

They made him more militant in the comic seven.

Yeah, most definitely.

They made him more militant and overall in the comics too.

I hope they keep up with that, though.

Bro, think like, think about it, though.

If Captain America flopped, which looked like is going to be the case based off everything that we see with the reception already towards the character.

Uh, that's just a couple of white people.

It's the reception, though.

That's because I mean, Black Panther did a bill and it was good.

But it's like the more I think about it, like we've been seeing the same scenes from Captain America, the same flying scene over the ocean, the same shit with Red Hulk.

We really get too much.

We got a little bit of a leader, but it's like, bro, if this movie is actually good, they got to be different.

It'll be if it's good.

I think that that will help propel the understanding of him as Captain America and possibly better movies.

But if it's bad, that's what I'm trying to say is if it's bad.

Yeah.

Cyclops is perfect to be the one like you next.

Come on.

You are new Captain America.

Yes.

I'm weak.

It sucks, but it's the truth.

I think Cap is going to blow our minds.

I hope so.

I really want it to be good.

I'm still excited about it.

I think it will.

I think they're keeping a whole lot of shit tucked to the chest.

They haven't shown the true villain.

They haven't shown the mastermind, the leader yet.

At least, I think good movies don't have to show everything to get everybody enticed.

They showed exactly what they showed us.

I feel like it got enough niggas enticed.

Either you're enticed or you're upset.

And regardless-

At least some eight minutes or some bullshit.

Emotions make you spend that money.

So regardless if you're angry or not, that's going to be angry about it and what Anthony Mackie just said recently, and they still going to spend that money to go see that shit.

So we will-

Imagine being that angry to go spend your money to see some shit that you hope is bad.

You sat there two and a half hours hoping that this shit is bad.

Just because the captain is black.

That movie come out in less than two weeks.

Yup.

A lot.

We got a lot of shit, man.

Yeah.

It's a lot.

Finally.

And we already in the middle of other things too.

It does.

It feels good.

Yup.

It's been a long time.

Yes, it has.

Like think about this.

On the 14th, you're going to get solo leveling Invincible, a new Marvel movie, Iron Man.

It's been a long time since that's been the case.

Good God Almighty, man.

Number content, but content, but content.

We're getting in the golden age.

We're getting in the golden age.

But yet again, we appreciate y'all for stopping on by.

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That's Tyler Vicious.

Yep.

Shout out to you.

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