Squad Nero Episode 55: TORIYAMA IS THE GOAT!!!!! STATE OF PLAY AMAZING?!?!?!

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On it back.

Yeah.

Hey, I finished that hoe.

Hold up, I messed it up.

Just talk, I'm gonna fix this while we're doing that thing.

We, are we still, cause I'm looking at your YouTube channel, is this what you're saying?

Yeah, no, we in it.

Okay, okay, okay.

No, we in it, I'm fixing it right now.

I'm like, I'm gonna put everything up.

Just go ahead, go ahead and speak.

Oh.

Oh, what's good, everybody?

Squad Nero, my bad, had a little brain fart.

All right, we back in this thing, season two, episode 14, AKA episode 55.

Back in this, we have been waiting for this moment, at least I have, for this year to actually start to get rumbling per se with the content.

And I think now we hittin like a nice pace in regards to all forms of content from comics, from anime, from fucking maybe shows out there.

I don't know if there's some shows out there that I'm missing, but movies especially now, everything is starting to pick up the pace again.

Now we're officially back in 2025, y'all.

So give it up for that.

And there's Black History Month too.

So give it up for that as well.

All right, appreciate y'all for stopping by.

I'm here with my brothers, Croco, Tsmoov, Nino.

Back in this thing.

It's some hot topics for this week, but I think we might as well start off with that Captain America.

We got two members that already watched it.

So they already have a good understanding of what that movie entails.

And if it is actually as how some people have been saying, it has been online.

So I'm curious, fellas, what do y'all think of it so far?

Honestly, I gave the movie like a 8 out of 10.

It was a solid.

It was solid.

It wasn't like, oh my god, like, this is totally amazing.

No, it was like a, not to say an origin movie, but like that handoff we were looking for for Captain America, for Anthony Mackie to really take his place, for them to actually show him being Cap.

And honestly, I liked everything from start to finish with everything that's going on with the show.

And surprisingly, it does not start...

How did you get in here?

Jesus, scared the shit out of me.

I like closed that door.

Ain't no way you figured out how to get in here.

Yeah.

Yo, get in the room.

I did not think that's appropriate.

That was not appropriate.

It was just supposed to be startle.

I forgot how that shit sounded.

I was able to take it back and forth with Croco's on this, and he understands my plight.

After, even with everything we talk about, with the animes we watch, with the shows we watch, the certain things I despise.

When I say I despise, I despise it with the passage of a thousand suns.

And this thing happened, and I'm like, you know what?

It is what it is, it's one part, so.

This is already spoiled because of that.

How is it spoiled, sir?

T hates the power of friendship.

Somehow, someway, the power of friendship is used in this.

Nino, tell him he is wrong on so many levels.

Nah, it's you, but the thing is, that was pretty like intuitive, but that's not, that's not it.

That's not it.

All right, cool.

So I'm like, damn, only thing I know you hate more than anything is-

But that was, he scared me.

That was a stupid big brain, yeah.

That was a stupid big brain take.

That was a super big brain take.

That nigga doobie, he doobie doing that.

He scared me there for a second, T, because I was like, mmm.

I think he got it, but no.

Nah, I told you what it was when we were taking each other.

I think I know what.

Yeah, you probably do, Sage, but you could hold it.

Yo, I got a question for you, Tito.

How did you like the, like in terms of power scaling?

I know they mentioned that.

I don't know, maybe Anthony Mackie didn't take this.

I like the fact that it literally showed, like it because I've seen people complain about the fight choreography, but it's not supposed to be like this over the top fight choreography because he's a human that does not have the super soldiers syndrome.

No powers.

All he got is a suit.

None.

And it's not even Iron Man suit.

And that's the thing.

I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed the fighting fight scenes.

Like, yeah, it was it was pretty dope.

I enjoyed it.

So with that being said, like.

I.

People need to watch this movie.

People need to watch this movie and.

I mean it on so many levels.

Like they.

This this movie was really good.

And especially the ending.

It's it's the it's one.

One ending cut scene, not two, but it's one.

So so that y'all know y'all sit y'all behind down for everybody that watch Marvel movies.

You always stay till the end.

I hate when people get up.

It's annoying.

Stay till the end, please.

And people leave, mad people leave.

So the ending cut scene, very important.

Pay attention to it because it's something that we can really speak on next week on your thoughts.

Yeah, me and me and I started delving ideas on what it could be and what it can't be.

And it it looks like it's about to get it's about to get real.

Yeah, I, well, I'll start from the top in regards to the movie.

Real simple.

It really did.

It gave a phase one kind of feel to me.

I saw some arguments online that was saying like, you could maybe go a little bit later than that to like, after the first Avengers movie, like a film in that round.

But I don't, I think that some of the best movies from Marvel came out after the original Avengers movie.

And I want to put this in that same round, per se, as some of those movies that came out after that first Avengers movie.

But I will put it in the round with some of those movies that came out during, you know, before the Avengers movie.

And it was needed to me.

Like, we constantly go back and forth here.

There's constant people in the YouTube community that go back and forth on like, how bad the Marvel movies have been.

I think that this is a real, a really grounded movie for Marvel.

We don't, Dee, I know this is a part that you will probably enjoy.

It's not very hung up on the humor.

Not at all.

It's, again, it goes back to like, what they were originally kind of, more or less pushing, and before they kind of started to get analytics and optics, just have the changes that they've had.

Very realistic in regards to this Captain America, you know, and it's touched on the idea of, we do know that Anthony Mackie, Sam Wilson does not have the Super Soldier Serum.

And it's, you know, what is life like for somebody who's taken up the mantle of Captain America without a Super Soldier Serum?

I think they did a pretty good job of explaining that and going through that throughout the film.

A lot, one of the things that I know people were kind of frustrated on is we know in Marvel movies we get introduced to new characters, be it a superhero or be it a regular person that's connected to a superhero.

I don't feel like they did a terrible job with what character development or introductions they gave us in this film.

You know, somebody could be a little bit more nitpicky on that and I get that, but it wasn't terrible.

It was enough things or it's like, okay, I can see where this could be used.

And the characters that were introduced can definitely have further development and that we could see later down the line in Marvel, especially what we know is coming up, right?

Like Secret Wars, you know that it's like this large, like we're building up to a big bang and we know that, you know, they're going to need people to be able to combat it.

It's supposed to be a larger threat than Thanos, is how this is supposed to be height, be it Doctor Doom or whatever.

Even before when it was a Kang, it was supposed to be this is going to be a larger threat than Thanos.

So this movie to me did a good job of putting certain people in place for that, to make more sense and to boost the odds and sizes, the odds and sides, sides.

I'm saying size, I'm trying to say side, but to boost the sides of the universe that we know of.

And with us knowing what movies are coming out down the line, it makes sense, it just makes sense.

For it to be the next movie after Deadpool, it felt, you know, Deadpool was loved, hyped.

We already knew that Deadpool was going to do well.

It brought this Wolverine into play.

You didn't need anything too crazy.

And I do believe, I personally do believe that Thunderbolts will be better than I think a lot of people anticipated.

I don't think that it'll necessarily be great.

But I do think that, you know, when we first heard this was getting announced, we probably were leaning more on the side of that.

Captain America will be a better movie than Thunderbolts.

And with the things that I've seen recently, I'm starting to think that maybe, you know, maybe that could surprise us.

There could be a surprise there.

But yeah, it was cool.

The cut scene, one thing to add to Tee's Point, pay attention.

My biggest thing that I recommend for y'all is just pay attention to the wording.

I honestly want to go back and like see that again to make sure that I even got it right.

But I tried to really pay attention to the words that were said during that scene.

It's not a visual.

It's not a lot of, it's not necessarily the visual aspect of what it's gonna give you.

It's what is being said during that period that I think may potentially, and we'll talk about it after you guys see the movie.

But I think that that could potentially introduce a new element, in my opinion, that I'm excited to kind of talk to you guys more about.

But I agree with T, 100%.

Overall, I give it an 8 out of 10.

So speaking on new element, I know they mentioned adamantium in the trailers.

Was that like a really big driving factor in the movie?

Because I feel like with the mention of adamantium, people know that's Wolverine.

But does it mention any words like mutants or people with different abilities or anything like that?

Because I'm like, I don't know if they start in the universe with, oh, there's adamantium and then now we have mutants.

So, okay, in regards to how deep they go in the discussion around adamantium, no, it doesn't get extremely detailed.

But what I, and this is what I do appreciate from this film, they made this setup where in future things that come out, where there is a, there is a storyline wise, a reasonable and understandable connection between adamantium and whatever, even beyond just, and this is a part that I kind of like, it goes even beyond the idea, just mutants.

It's, it opened it up to everyone, every type of character, every, a worldly, it's like a worldly element.

They opened it up to where it could be a worldly element, so they can use these things.

And this, they didn't say this in the movie.

I'm just saying this as an example.

Colossus, right?

We know that Colossus is from Russia.

They opened up the idea of different places in the world possibly being able to have higher power beings, being able to possibly have manipulations.

And they did it in regards to the idea of this all being around or possibly being associated with adamantium.

So that's the part that I enjoy because it's like when I saw all the approach that they went with in the movie, I was like, okay, there's 50 different things that you could do with that.

It's not necessarily just one thing that they could do with that.

But when you talk about like mutants especially, mutants, it's a lot of mutants.

It's a lot.

So to know that they opened this up the way that they did and they kind of made it more, they seem like they bring in the world more in as opposed to just being kind of like what the United States is doing still.

You know, yeah, we get things like Sokovia and stuff like that, like different places like that, but we don't, it's not really like grounded in those areas.

I feel like with what they discussed in this movie, there is a possibility that we can get more background and more engagement from different areas of the world outside of just the United States.

Adamantium was the kind of way to do that, or maybe the way to do that.

Was there any mention of the Atlanteans?

You said what, D?

Was there any mention of the Atlanteans?

Because I'm thinking with half of that celestial being in the water, you would think they would probably have dibs on it, since they already got Vibranium.

I'm going to be honest with you, you got to watch the movie.

I don't want my, it might give away extra stuff, but we can't disclose this information, sir.

Why not?

That's the answer, it didn't of itself, but appreciate you, Ms.

Pac-Man, for stopping by.

Yeah, thank you, Ms.

Pac-Man.

Ms.

Pac-Man, is it too much to you?

I think what he's trying to get at is, I already kind of tiptoed a line, and he's just trying to not go further than that without taking away from the movie for you.

I want y'all to sit down and really enjoy it, and sit down and watch it from start to finish without like any clues to what's going on.

I'm going in there fresh to late.

Yeah.

We in that hole.

But I mean, it was solid.

I agree that rating that he gave, I completely agree with that rating.

I could see if somebody went down to a seven maybe, but I want it go lower than that.

Yeah.

We also are starting to end now, you brought it up.

It's kind of like our perception of which of these two movies that Marvel is coming out with next.

It's kind of flipping now.

We kind of seen it with the marketing.

That's why we brought it up before.

Like we seen the trailer for Cap.

We was like, all right, yeah, this is introducing some new things.

It seems like it's a very cool movie.

Nothing too crazy, but it's not ass by any metric or anything like that.

And then you look at that trailer for Thunderbolts, and you like, hey, it's something in this trailer that's making me very interested in this movie.

I'm not gonna lie.

It seems like they have teetered the line on comedy and the action just solely in the trailer.

And usually if you could captivate people with the trailer, I feel like most of the times the movie is genuinely good.

I would hope so, at least.

I could be wrong.

But I'm super excited to dive into the project.

I know it's gonna be a whole lot of supremacists out there that's a little upset that a black man is representing the red, white and blue, but you know.

It's just unnecessary, bro.

Like it's, yo, like if you like Marvel movies, just go just watch a Marvel movie.

It may be something that can just give you a little bit more spark or interest in the series again.

Like people got elite, like it's just, it's unnecessary.

It's not the film.

It's not the film.

Just rock with it.

And they not factoring in fucking legacy in regards to these characters already that's already established.

It's hard for Chris Evans to keep doing this.

When he also, when we look at this, he's not just Captain America, he's also a hundred percent of the time now, Chris motherfucking Evans.

He has a life.

He has dreams of or different aspirations in his acting career that maybe he doesn't just want to be a superhero for a prolonged time.

And I can't knock him for that because I feel like that shit would get annoying after a while.

Now you teeter in the line of everybody calling you Captain America.

Nigga, my name is Chris.

I don't know who the fuck Steve Rogers is.

Nigga, this nigga is a fictional character.

But nonetheless, I'm happy to hear that it has landed safely from our voice.

Seems like we are now starting to get at least into levels of normalcy with them.

And then from here, yeah, all they can do is go up from here.

As long as you don't produce no shit.

Have it be alright.

Have it be good, but don't produce ass.

Because once you start to do that, everybody gonna start down again.

But, ooh, y'all wanna tap into the invincible first?

Of course.

All right.

All right, so last week, they dropped what, three episodes, I believe.

And then they dropped one episode this past Wednesday.

A whole lot of content.

I wanna hear y'all vision on this season so far.

Since in comparison, this would have been the mid-season break if we would have had the stop again within the season, like they did last time.

But obviously that was probably due to some COVID restraints, so on and so forth.

But how are y'all feeling about this first four episodes in comparison to the first four episodes of the previous season?

Solid, like these episodes have been very solid, especially the break out scene for them.

That was pretty solid.

I'm not gonna lie, the way the last episode ended halfway per se on the Invincible side kind of threw me for a loop because I'm sitting there watching.

I'm like, I know the episode didn't just end and then they went into the, we're about to catch up with, what is it?

What's the alien?

Alan the Alien.

Alan the Alien and what's it be for the breakout?

Oh, oh, okay, more content.

Yay, I just wasn't expecting it.

They could have flowed that a little bit better because they just threw the credit scene up and it had me like, is this episode done?

I think they did that on purpose.

They used the same technique before in previous episodes too.

Yeah, it was when Alan the Alien was clapping cheeks and they went back to Mark.

And Mark was clapping cheeks as well.

So yeah, I guess it's a thing.

It is, especially like, I guess around like romantic scenes.

It's been used to everyone.

So I get like, and it's, yeah, T, I do get what you're saying in that.

I feel that too.

Like sometimes it's just kind of like a like, it's like, all right, I understand y'all got to like, pivot and try to get the content in there.

But it's just kind of like a hard segue, not like a very easy or smooth segue into whatever that next thing is that you're gonna cover.

But, you know, it go back to what we said before, you know, some, you can't really, some things you just really can't complain too much about.

And I feel like this is one of them, at least that's what I keep telling myself.

Because it's like, they got so much content to cover.

It's so much still to tell with the story of Invincible.

So it's like, in regards to the pacing now, I'm not mad at it.

One of the things that people hate about stories, but you got to understand, like it's kind of like an element of stories that just has to exist.

It's in every story that we've seen, is where they do kind of have to fit in, like the narrative of side relationships or the experience of side characters and little stuff like that.

I know people don't necessarily want them.

Like to give you an example in the most recent episode of Invincible, the idea of when the shrink chick and Rex went to the grocery store, I could see where somebody would be like, I don't need that, why was that in there?

But it's just, like that's just how stories go.

You know what I mean?

It's just nothing you can really do about that.

Like stories built off of little instances like that.

But that's the thing, that needed to be in there because that showed how the shrink chick, she's been through so much, even being rebuilt.

She wants to just have maybe a little bit of normalcy just to cook dinner.

And it shows the pressures of the team all together.

I agree, I do agree that it is somewhat of a necessity, but that's why I personally don't have any complaints.

More or less what I'm trying to say is for the people that do have complaints and stuff like that, you just got to really understand, like it's just part of story telling and you have to kind of fit things in there.

And if anything, hopefully, the positive side of it could be that it'll allow for us to have more content down the line.

I still am confused with the end point.

I think they said somewhere around what season is it?

Season four, three, four, season three.

So I think they're trying to go for eight.

I can kind of, six, is it six?

It's hard for me to really see it right now.

It's really hard for me to see how they'll be able to get everything in the six, if they stick with like a eight episode formula, even at 45 minute episodes.

But I do think that this season has done a good job at just trying to kind of push through, just trying to keep going, keep going, keep going, and pushing through, trying to get as much as they can.

And, and it hasn't, it's, it's been, I like how it's been done personally.

It's enjoyable to watch, and it's a nice, concise storytelling.

All right.

What about you Rob?

Invincible, my bad.

Lot of shit going on.

Um, these first four episodes, I think have been great.

They haven't wasted any time.

And just like how y'all are bringing up that point with the Rex and the, uh, what is it?

Shrieking Adam?

I believe.

I can't remember.

I can't shrieking.

I can't remember.

But, uh, nonetheless, it's also showing the growth that Rex has throughout the whole entire series as well, because the old Rex wouldn't have been, I guess, he would say as thoughtful as he was with Shrieking Ray.

I think it's Shrieking Ray.

Shrieking Ray in that situation type of thing, before we know Rex to be the asshole.

But I think they're showing everybody's growth and maturity, especially Mark throughout this whole entire, where he finally put his foot down for Sisu.

And they're, specifically, their interactions so far have been like some of the most intense scenes that I've seen from a show in quite some time, I'm not gonna lie.

Where like you can feel that intensity through the screen.

Like there's animosity between these two people.

Sisu might say that he's in fear, and obviously that might be the main force that's driving him.

But it's also possibly anger as well.

Like, I'm not gonna let you stand, I have to be this way.

I have to make these tough decisions for a reason.

You show his backstory, you get into the nitty gritty, see how he builds his ethos, and it goes into the world and then acts that shit how he views.

So now you kind of see where he's coming from, but also you see where Mark is coming from at the same time.

It's that dichotomy that I feel like media sometimes misses.

Where if you miss that shit, the whole plot is lost.

But if you hit on that shit, it only substantiates that this episode or this season is that much above the typical caliber that we're accustomed to seeing at this present point in time in media.

I'm not gonna lie so far, I'm actually fucking with the season.

And like you said Rob, that cut in between Mark and Cecil was actually crazy.

Because at first, I was definitely gonna see on Mark's side, like Cecil you keep in the nigga that's making reanimin and you keep in Darkwing.

But then it's like you're using the reanimin that he's already built for something good.

So it's like, okay, now you don't have to risk.

These people are essentially already dead.

So you're not risking, you know, anyone else's life.

But then it's like when you see Cecil's backstory, you get to understand that he really was, he really was Mark in the past trying to do everything right.

So then when he's like, when he killed those two people, because he's like, no, we're not using this.

Like, like, what are you doing?

And it was like, no, like we can either be the good guys or the ones that can save the world.

And then he adopted that philosophy.

So then it's like, you also realize, and he gave, he, he's extending that same grace to Omni Man.

Realize that when they first met Omni Man, all he did was lie.

And Cecil's like, shit, well, at least we can use this nigger for good.

And I don't think what Mark is understanding is like, your dad wiped out the world's best heroes, like on his own.

So I don't think I can trust you.

I got to keep tabs on your family in case you make a comeback.

Not only that, but you went and you fought other Viltrumites with this nigger.

How do I not know you're poisoned in some type of way?

Like I have to, like, I have to take these precautions against you because you would really never know.

Like we never knew your father would go and destroy Chicago and just start killing, killing US military people.

Like we didn't know he was going to do all of that.

We wasted money doing that.

We lost lives doing that.

So it's like, if there's even a 1% chance that you might be like your father, we're going to take you out.

So it's like, it's like damn, but I mean, like Rob said, at least Mark is putting his foot down and he's trying to prove he's not like his dad.

But it's like when you look at, we'll look at the episode through Cecil's eyes, like you're not like your dad, but look how easily you defeated the Re-Anim.

Look how fast you fly in across the world.

Like I can't even keep up with you with the technology we spend millions on.

So it's like at this point, you're posing more of a threat than your father, because I really don't know what's going on.

And like to your point, Nile, at first I thought about, I did like the scene with Shrinking Ray and Rex, because she did die in the comics.

With them keeping her alive, it's like you're showing the humanity, like I can't cook, but I just want to try to cook dinner for everybody.

So we can just sit down and be normal for once.

We just watched one of our teammates almost be killed by Re-Anim, and that we know our evil.

Like we always ordering pizza and sitting at the HQ.

Like let's try to be normal for once.

And then it's like you go outside and they got to fight these bad guys.

And it's like, damn, like I don't even think I'm gonna get that chance.

I think that like all these characters have these near-death experiences like Monster Girl when she fought Battle Beast.

Same thing with Samson.

There's like Shrinker Ray.

She broke all the bones of her body when she was fighting in Lizard League.

Rex Float only got half a brain.

And it's like it's like it's so much shit going on for this team.

Like they just need somebody's moments to feel human, and they really just never get it.

And yeah, and it all build like knowing how the story goes.

I feel like since we all know how invincible like the act, the full story is, it seemed like it's just a lot more fleshed out than even we necessarily were getting.

Like some of these things, we know how they gonna proceed in the future.

Like with them making the changes that they did that you noted there, D.

Think like just going back to the Robot Boy, like we know everything, right, that come with that.

How much does this now, like them building the feelings and sentiments of this, how much does that make it hit harder when we get to those later elements in the story?

That's why I like it.

It's good.

It's, they build on it, but I'm sorry, I cut you off.

No, no, no, I was going to say another thing.

Like we see Cecil's face, like when he's going to get away, we know Mark got stronger, but there's certain moments where that adrenaline kicks in, like the human adrenaline kicks in, because you see when Mark flies away from the Rhiannon, and Cecil's like Jesus Christ, because you get that like shockwave from Mark flying away, then you get him speeding through.

And then when you see him fight the Rhiannon, it's like, of course they slow it down, but he's fighting so fast and so vicious.

Like Cecil's looking at him and disgusts like, yo, like even your father wasn't even doing shit like this.

Like you proven all the points, like I still have to keep tabs on you.

And I think it's, oh my bad, my camera fucked up.

I think it is going pretty well as far as pacing.

But like you said, they covering a lot in these four episodes, I think.

Especially with that last one, when he went to the future to take out Immortal, I thought that was going to take like two episodes.

They clinked that up real quick.

They were like, no, no, no, we got to get through this.

D, also to your point with Cecil, though, is like, I guess when I was reading more or less this arc, I didn't realize how immature Mark really was to all of this.

And I feel like the show flushes that out.

It makes me understand it better.

Like to you, to the point you made, it makes me understand Cecil's point of view a lot clearer.

Like how Saig said, I could see both sides.

I can still see both sides, but I did not realize how much like, and I don't want to, maybe immature is the wrong word, but the emotional strain, everything has been on Mark.

I could feel it a lot more, how they're breaking everything down in the anime than I could in the comic.

I'm curious how they're gonna do this, cause that's also how they showed that human element went wreck since Shrinken Ray.

It's also a even deeper reason why they did that shit now, cause they're trying to make somebody fall in love with a specific character.

I don't want to spoil it, cause it's in the comics.

But just know, I believe some shit coming up soon.

Yes, if I'm not mistaken, right after this arc, I guess they got to fight evens of fighting her nemesis that was shown in the actual, her one shot that they released and everything like that.

And then after that, Killer Cannon, yeah, or Kill Cannon.

And then fucking, what is it?

Invincible War starts right after that.

Now, I don't know how many episodes they gonna do?

Four?

I thought it was just eight.

I mean, eight.

Eight total.

Eight episodes.

Episode four, Invincible War might start at the, I'm gonna say damn near the end of episode six.

And take two episodes, finish out on that?

Or the middle of episode six, like you gonna have to get Angstrom Levy, end of episode five, they tease him.

Middle of episode six, you see in all these different marks, and he like, yo, what the fuck?

They definitely gonna speed that whole arc up, cause they definitely gotta tease Conquest at the end of this season.

No, they gotta leave off with Conquest after that fight, cause literally right after Invincible War, Invincible War doesn't seem like it's a lot, cause they don't have that much written down for it, but it says the aftermath, and they get Invincible versus Eve, and then some bullshit happens, Buddha the bow, and then Conquest pulls up.

But that might open next season.

Is, I mean, we can spoil future events, right or no?

Yeah, I feel like it's spoiler alert.

Spoiler alert.

Yeah, spoiler alert.

When Robot kills Cecil, when is that?

During Invincible War?

No.

No, that's way later, right?

Yeah, yeah, way later.

Okay, it was just one of the-

That's after all of the things-

I think that's after, what's the main character's name?

After that, Mark leaves fucking Earth with Eve, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, that's way, yes, that's like-

Because I was confused because it was one video I watched where it was like Mark had to pull his hair out to look like one of the Invincible clones.

So Rex wouldn't recognize him or something, and then Rex ends up killing Cecil.

But then in order for Mark to get back or whatever, he let Rex use a clone of his body.

So Rex is essentially like a Viltrumite in one of these universes or something shit.

And I thought that was during the Invincible War.

I was like, that would be hella soon for Cecil to die.

They might not even kill Cecil off to be honest with you.

I don't see him doing it.

Well, see, the thing is, the way that they, that's the other part is the way that they show like the backstory with Cecil and everything.

Death isn't like a definite thing in the way that this anime is being shown.

I mean, even with the characters that we seen, like the new Guardians, like Death isn't, they may be able to change some things around.

Like how you said, Shrinking Ray, you know, she got killed off originally in the series, but they brought her back in the anime.

We may could see something like that for some of the plot points where more notable characters are hitting their final moment.

Yeah, cause Cecil, I would say this season makes me really understand why Cecil does shit like the no-nonsense and why he been spying on Omni-Man.

Cause at first I'm like, you spying on Omni-Man this whole time.

And then you come to find out they knew Omni-Man was lying about who he was from the jump.

Yeah.

So that's like, damn, like I have to be on Cecil's side for this shit.

Nah, he, yeah.

And then like Nike said, when you get the flashback, it's like after the flashback episode, I'm like, all right, bro, he got it.

What did y'all think of the battle on the future of my ship?

I thought that was pretty good.

It was cool.

It's a monster and hilarious.

That'll be, it is a monster.

Yo, he reminds me of the tiger from Ben 10.

You know, the one that's like the wrestling tiger?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Battle Beast reminds me of him and it had me rolling.

Let's go, Pac.

Thank you for coming through, man.

Appreciate it.

Appreciate you, Pac-Man.

They have been dropping.

Oh, go ahead.

I was saying that scene where Alan was purposely getting beat by the Viltrumite.

You know, I'm the man to come rescue him.

It's like, dang, you see a lot of these characters change in this series for sure.

I mean, granted, we knew it was going to happen, but it's different seeing it play out.

The tip is that they've been dropping the Easter eggs.

They've been dropping for what's to come later on down the line.

I'm not, it can't necessarily be a one to one to the comics, but it's damn near close.

I'm not going to lie because reading from the comics to this, you just know what's going to happen.

It's a reason they're showing Battle Beast right now.

This nigga is a monster, a monster.

So I'm just excited for every everybody that they're introducing at this present point in time.

They better end this mother fucker off after the Conquest fight.

If they don't, I'm going to be highly upset.

Highly upset.

After the Conquest fight, they might just tease him.

I think they, because they flipped how some things happen right now.

Like Mark wasn't supposed to figure out somebody was spying on him until after everything that's transpired so far.

So it seems like they're switching some things just to make up some time.

You get multiple stories in a row.

And I think they might be able to do probably Kill Cannon next episode and Invincible War after that.

And then, oh, Aftermath be two episodes?

That would be nice.

I feel like the Conquest joint, bruh, they gonna tease him at the end of the episode and they're not gonna show a fight right away.

No, because that's what I think too.

Every time we see a Viltrumite, bruh, every time we see a Viltrumite pop up, they pop up unannounced.

Like, and they somehow just find the Viltrumite or whoever they're looking for, like Anissa popped up unannounced.

Omni, like every, it happens every time, like when the Viltrumites found Omni, man, it's like, bro, they gonna save Conquest.

They gonna have to get a hell of a voice actor for that nigga, because it's like, bro, like you gotta show Conquest and then show him up against Mark and then bam, like it's gonna be to be continued type shit.

We definitely think that by the end of the season, we'll at least see Conquest.

Yeah, for sure.

I'm gonna believe, I believe that too.

I think we'll see, I don't know how much we'll get, Sage, but I do completely agree.

And the reason why I say that is because of this last episode, when Alan and Omni Man broke out, that point that Omni Man made, like they're not gonna follow us because they only down to like 50 of them right now.

So I think that that, the reason, like, I think that that foreshadows the idea of Conquest coming after Mark.

You know, it would make sense for that to come at the end of this, even if it's something that we just kind of get like a preview of into the next season.

And then to give people something to be hyped about.

I think they might really end it off in two episodes with that Conquest show, or at least one and a half.

Use one and a half of Invisible War, use the other one and a half for the aftermath.

I think.

And it teased.

I don't think that Invisible War, cause Invisible War didn't really take that long, it doesn't seem.

It's about a mood, like that's the thing too, is two episodes is about like a short movie.

45, 45.

Yeah.

It's like a shorter, it's like short movie.

So they could possibly do that in two episodes.

Yeah, for sure.

Cause I mean, they got to show like the mom's relationship with the new dude.

They got to show the scolding of Oliver still.

They got to show what's going to happen with the Maulers or whatever, or they even touch on Duplicate and her brother too, I'm pretty sure.

And then they foreshadow, correct me if I'm wrong, not this most recent episode, but the last episode they already did the foreshadowing and didn't really touch it on everything that obviously leads into the Invincible War.

The spy bot thing in the window that Mark had crushed, and then they talked about it a little bit in this most recent episode.

So if they just start, if they go gung-ho into it next episode, which we have, we have five or six.

We have five for the next one.

Five at the next one.

So, yeah, if they just go gung-ho into it for the next episode, since they already kind of did the foreshadowing, it is possible five and six.

It could be the majority of it.

Maybe you have a little bit going to seven, but if seven go directly in the Conquest, they could potentially do, to Sage's point, they could potentially do two episodes with Conquest.

We can't go anywhere else though.

We can't go outer space.

Is there anything outer space that would happen?

But I'm missing from the Conquest.

From the Conquest fight, he has to kill Conquest in that first battle.

So you think they're going to introduce Conquest and then show him killed in his first scene as a butcher might come in to get marked?

Yeah.

And then nothing else for another season?

Yeah.

Possibly.

I can see that.

He's supposed to be that nigga.

If they show Conquest and they don't end this fight in this season, I promise you there will be major ramifications that these niggas will go through from the audience standpoint.

Just as much as y'all said that y'all hated that mid-season break, which is understandably so, imagine you got a full season break in a mid-fight with a Viltramite that Mark actually looks like he might have an advantage over.

He might actually get a W or if you're a comic reader, you know he's going to get the W.

At some point, spoiler alert.

But for them to end it halfway, you know how much shit they would get.

Yeah, that would be crazy.

Because they did talk about, will Mark be able to fight a Viltramite?

And then Donna was like, we believe so.

But then it's like, we haven't seen, we've seen him fight the Re-Animan and we've seen bits and pieces of him going crazy.

But they were like, no, he said, do you think he would have been able to beat that girl Viltramite that was here?

They were like, we believe he could.

We're still uncertain.

If he does beat Conquest, they'd be like, okay.

Because she even said he's worse than she is.

So, yeah, into the season, if they show that that training actually paid off, that'll be okay.

Well, I mean, to Saig's point, he's been doing a lot this season.

Like, in terms of training, in terms of fights, in terms of psychological measures, not even just this season, last season, too.

He's been training well enough to where, if they show him getting a W at the end of the season, it's not like it wouldn't make, like, it don't feel like they didn't show us enough beforehand.

I feel like they didn't have that excuse.

Because if she, if they said that they think he could beat her.

Invincible.

Yeah, that's what I was saying.

Like, they have to show him going, like, all out in that war.

Because, I mean, she did defeat that Kaiju just flying through the shit.

They said she moved faster than Omni Man.

So they like, if she said, a nigga worse than me coming, like, they got to show this in Invincible war.

Like, okay, Invincible is actually that nigga now.

So he can't know what the hell happened to her.

With an hour and a half total time, I feel like they could.

Yeah.

That point can get proven in an hour and a half.

And then you spend the next hour and a half confirming it for the audience.

Yeah.

It is also not like Markin is fighting this nigga by himself either.

He's going to have help.

So even if he's not as strong as Conquest, he has people around him that at least evens out, if not gets him the better shot.

Oh, question, was Oliver in that fight?

Oliver was in that fight.

Oh, I remember what happened.

Oh, yeah.

And I think it's the restraint too, because when you saw like we keep saying Markin getting beat and he keeps saying like he's holding back or whatever.

They like, yo, it's like you got to stop that because you see what happens.

Oliver jumped on the scene and was like, you've been you've been having trouble with these blue niggas.

And he killed the niggas.

And it's like, yo, like if that's the case, Invincible could have been doing this.

All of that, the build up, I do agree with Sage, the build up is for him to like face Conquest at the end of this season.

The build up has been around.

I can see where people would be kind of like, would be like, what did you build us up for this for?

Yeah, cliffhanger type shit, just showing him floating over earth or something, and then cut it.

People can't, I agree with Sage, people can't, there's already enough riffraff over the mid season, they can't do that again.

Good season, though.

Like it so far, no complaints.

And it'd be perfect how they ended off with the rest of the...

Cause the fight is this one piece, but the mental aspect after that Mark goes to is even more important, man.

This man, what is this?

Jonathan Kirkland?

I said Jonathan Kirkland.

Is it?

Robert Kirkland?

Robert Kirkland.

Yeah, this nigga is cold, dog.

He a master with the pen, man.

I ain't gonna lie.

I ain't gonna lie.

But, all right, yeah, invincible.

They're walking dead too, right, T?

Yep, yep, yep.

He's really good, he is.

Man is a master with the pen.

Didn't he do fucking the boys too?

I believe so, yeah.

He's Louise.

All right, this really is a master with the pen.

He can get in probably hella brave right now too.

Y'all wanna do PlayStation state of play?

I'm not gonna lie.

No, I'm thinking about it more.

If you just talk about it, we don't have to go full into details, very underwhelming.

Y'all, I didn't see it, so y'all let me know.

I'd much rather just go to DBZ and Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

Do we get Wolverine?

No, I didn't show Wolverine.

No, I don't care.

No, I don't care.

It's a lot of stuff that they didn't show.

That's what we want to see, is those two.

It was Monster Hunter and WWE got to park now like 2K.

Bruh.

They wasted a state of play.

And they brought up an escape.

Every hole.

They wasted two state of plays.

Two state of plays.

It's 20 minutes.

This one was 40 minutes long.

Bruh.

This don't make no.

And this was the comeback.

No sense, man.

Off the comeback?

No sense, man.

PlayStation, you fumbling the bag right now, bro.

Xbox about the-

Those are the two things I want to see, though.

It's Kingdom Hearts, and I love Kingdom Hearts.

They had no Ghost of Yote either.

Nothing.

No new trailer.

Nothing.

Nothing from the Naughty Dog, the new Naughty Dog game.

Not a fucking peep.

Not a fucking peep out of Wolverine.

None of the Kojima.

None of the Kojima game.

Nothing from Kojima.

Oh, wait.

Was it?

No, it wasn't.

Um, like, we got Monster Hunter and a fucking park system for WWE.

Like, that was absolutely nothing about that Kojima game.

And given that it's supposed to be like that follow up to Silent Hill is crazy.

We ain't they should be teasing that more.

They should be like doing little things like nothing big, but like little things.

I don't know whether that's on Kojima or whether that's on PlayStation.

But like, I'm not talking about the walk, the last man standing follow up.

I'm not talking about that crap.

I don't really like that game.

The one where he like walking with the baby.

I got the name.

That's right.

I'm not talking about that follow up.

I'm talking about this whole new title that's supposed to be coming from Kojima.

They should be teasing that more.

Something.

Probably got to get some exclusive rights on GTA.

They're not going to show that during a state of play.

That will be more of a big event like the Video Game Awards or E3.

So if they're going to show something, it's going to be either the PlayStation Showcase or later on this year, the big one that's in Japan, or some if it's not if the title for Kojima is not under Sony itself and it's under like Bethesda or anything else, then it will be shown during E3 in June.

I hope so, because I got to build hype around these titles.

Not that they like don't call it.

Not E3, but like one of those events during the summer.

September.

Oh.

Like usually it's like July or August.

E3 is dead, I forgot, E3 is dead.

E3 died two years ago.

Yeah, okay.

Do you was saying something?

Yeah, they skipped an Insomnia video game you said?

Marvel's Wolverine.

They didn't show the Wolverine game.

Wolverine game, or they didn't keep up with the same pace that they had with the other Spider-Man game.

Albeit they did get a leak.

I guess I got to give them some type of benefit of the doubt.

But at the same time, y'all were riding such a huge wave from Spider-Man to Miles Morales.

Or, and you capitalized upon it with dropping Miles Morales.

You dropped Spider-Man 2, and then you dropped potential new people like Cindy Moon possibly being a player into it.

But then we hear leaks that a possible Venom game is going to come out.

And you also don't drop any DLC for the Spider-Man 2.

Like you just leaving money on the table right now.

You're not capitalizing on shit.

You got modders that are fucking creating the same game that you canceled because I guess it was too difficult for you to goddamn create a multiplayer Spider-Man game.

Something that has never been done before.

You could have capitalized upon that shit and made yourself a fucking killing.

And yet you're leaving money on the board.

For what fucking reason?

I don't know.

But wasn't there a lot of pushback from that leak?

Everybody was like, yo, they leaked this shit and it looks absolutely terrible.

No, people were excited.

I mean, it was our early beta.

So if people are saying it looks terrible, they're just not using reality to form what the fuck their opinion is at that present point of time.

But fucking early version of beta, even in the programming phase still, you had fucking objects in that bitch that still had the code on the motherfucker instead of the actual picture.

That's how it was beta.

This is not gonna look great.

But you could see where it was going, where you like, hey, this is the same creator that made Spider-Man, but this doesn't feel like Spider-Man.

This actually feels like how Wolverine would maneuver and be going from place to place, and just destruction follows this nigga, because this nigga is a loose cannon.

It seemed like that.

It seemed like they capitalized on that.

So if I was an insomniac, I would have been like, okay, double down on this shit.

I think they have some layoffs too.

They had to lay off some people because of some budget restrictions, I guess.

At the same time, bro, come on, man.

Come on, insomniac.

When Wolverine was teased, what, 2022?

I believe so.

Earliest was probably two years ago, I believe.

I think it was two years.

It was like right at the tail end of PS5, before the PS6 came out.

Literally because, what, it's 2025.

It's about to be soon.

They're doing it soon.

We're bringing a new PS6 come 2027, 2028.

Yo, Marvel's Wolverine.

Which is crazy.

It's not crazy.

Yeah.

I agree with Tito.

It's probably going to be at the tail end.

Cause as wild as it seems, it's not crazy, but he right, another system coming.

It's not going to be long before another system.

They going to, by the end of 2026, they going to give an announcement like PS6, dun dun.

You going to be like, what?

Imagine how I'm going to feel.

I'm getting my P5 likely at some point this year.

And for me to know, I'm going to have a two year shelf life on this thing.

Before they about to be like, get that P6, bro.

Just wait for the P6 at this point, damn.

Honestly, but no, it's too many games.

It's too many games, bro.

A Wolverine game potentially coming out.

Kingdom Hearts.

It's too many, Grand Theft Auto.

Too many games that I like.

Like they weren't making games that I really care too much about or they weren't developing them too much to where I was like, I need to get a P5.

But now they making games and I'm like, okay, I want to play this.

Bro, with that coming out in 2021, I don't think it's like too soon, too long for them to put out something from that Wolverine game.

Oh, yeah.

But like you said, see, this is the thing.

I really do think companies just got to stop like listening to people complain because people got to complain for every single thing, every single.

And what happens is now, we have so many complaints that now people actually like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we need to go back.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

We need to do this again.

You don't know what the filter was, is actual criticism and what is just, niggas just being butt hurt.

Sometimes it's needed, like Sonic, right?

We saw what they was doing with Sonic.

And then everybody was like, oh no.

It was easy.

Yeah.

But that was a good example of that.

But not everything is the Sonic example.

It's easy because everybody pinpointed exactly on that.

It was people from both sides of the aisle, whether if we're divided as a country, people on the left and right, both like, nigga, this is not the Sonic that we grew up on.

This shit looks ass.

It looks scary.

But then when you got other movies like Captain America, it's hard to appease to a certain demographic or individual who are also trying to appease to the other demographics of people.

It's always going to be somebody that has a problem with that shit.

Everybody got a mouth like just as much as everybody got a ass and shit come out of it both ways.

So it just happens like that.

And you just got to accept that.

Yeah, you just gonna have to take, like look, if it's gonna be an L, just don't let it be a sonic L, like the direction A was going.

But if it's not, if you're not getting feedback, like the sonic example, you just, yo, just, you gotta put out what you got.

If people like it, they like it.

If they don't, they don't.

Yeah.

You, Insomniac has brought us the benefit of the doubt.

They might have lost some favor with some people for Spider-Man 2 because of various reasons.

Nonetheless, you still have produced, which I think if you want to criticize Spider-Man 2, you can't say it's an ass game.

You could probably say it's an all right to good game, but it wasn't anything earth shattering like the first Spider-Man was because everything was coupled in that shit.

But, how long?

We have four years though, to T's point.

We have four years.

That is a little nuts.

And to T's point is probably going to be six years, five to six years.

They got to stop with these teasers, goddamn.

Drop the trailer on the niggas.

Cause even if we had a whole Spider-Man 2 teaser that came out when it was Spider-Man and Miles and Peter, and they was fighting Venom in the street.

You thought it was going to be a whole different type of game, low key.

Cause I don't know if we had to show at that point, but we was talking about like, if it was going to be some co-op shit too.

And it wasn't that at all.

I hope one day we are able to gain access to certain gaming events that go on.

Obviously, they're dwindling, but still be able to go and actually speak to some of these representatives for some of these companies.

Because I'd question a hell lot of insomniac right now.

Like, bro, please get your head in the game.

We want y'all to succeed.

At that end, the Captain American fucking Black Panther game, they dropped what?

A game play trailer for that shit?

I've heard nothing from it, bro.

Nothing.

They haven't dropped anything about it.

That was a full on like trailer, like not a trailer trailer, but like a little, like a solid teaser trailer.

That wasn't small.

They had the cinematics and everything behind it.

They just said it.

What y'all mean?

What y'all talking about?

We don't know what y'all talking about.

That's crazy.

That's wild.

I forgot totally about that.

Wolverine, they dropped like, man, that's wild.

2026, probably 2026, 2027.

But if they release, I'm still excited for them to do an X-Men game.

Supposedly, they're going to create that.

So hopefully, it's a Crocoa.

Yep.

Where you got people come like you got to you can go through the gates.

Oh, and you be back in like New York.

You go through the gate, you in New York with a team that you assemble or that the game assemble for you.

Buy some GTA V shit.

You step through another gate, you like in Russia.

Supposedly, not as you brought, this is a random topic, not as you brought up GTA V.

I supposedly saw a rumor today that they're searching or trying to reach an October 28th release date for this year for GTA.

You believe it?

Supposedly.

You believe it?

Usually the big, if I'm not mistaken, the big tier Rockstar games that they have released, some of them have released during that October release date.

I feel like that's kind of their sweet spot, so to say, cause they know that they gon have this shit on lock.

If GTA is dropping, niggas change up their release date just off the simple premise of when GTA is dropping.

We're not dropping on the same week, nor the same weekend, damn near two weeks with GTA.

We leave them niggas in the corner of their own, because they have deserved the right to own that magnitude, which is some crazy, that's some crazy big stepping talk right there.

Nonetheless, supposedly they have dropped a couple of, a couple of their top tier titles in October.

So, I don't, I don't know.

I don't know, they haven't released a trailer, but usually GTA doesn't really give us super in-depth content before they release a Grand Theft Auto, if I'm not mistaken.

Probably, if it was already their redemption, it would show more of the story elements, all of that jazz, but I don't believe they really go in-depth with the marketing campaigns for Grand Theft Auto.

I don't believe so.

They'll probably have like a, a gameplay trailer showing this shit, but not try and give too much.

But I would hope so.

That would, that would, that would shake up the game.

That would put the staple on 2025.

If we're looking at it right now, it's shaping up to be a pretty good year.

And Fantastic Four come out this year too?

Yeah.

Yes sir.

Nigger.

Nigger.

People be wise, it's a lot of good movies that come out.

Game wise, it's a lot of good games that come out.

Like, oh Lord.

We don't even know when Ghost of Yote come out.

Imagine they say November.

Who?

We?

I don't know if I believe the GTA though.

I don't know either.

It depends on if they push it back.

They have the propensity to be able to push it back, but.

Who knows?

Uh, so.

Yo Rob, did we lose you?

Yo Derrick.

Yeah.

Did we lose?

Yo Nile, you there?

Yup, we lost him.

I was about to say, I'm like, you taking a long time to read something.

Yeah, what you telling?

Well, my bad, hello?

Yeah, you good?

Yeah, my shit tweaked out.

I forgot what I was saying.

Nile froze.

I was like, oh, what's going on?

But I was saying one out of 10, what would you rate that state of play?

Four.

Four?

I agree with you.

It was some cool shit they showed, but it wasn't like what you thought you were going to get with all this news and everything.

I for sure thought we was going to get the Wolverine shit though.

All he had to do was to show one of those games.

That's all he had to do.

Yep.

That's all.

I think we can do Toriyama.

We got to shout out Toriyama.

In his grave, this man is producing top tier content.

Top-tier content.

And we just love to see it.

If you haven't watched Dragon Ball Diamond a recent episode, please turn off right now because we will spoil this in all its glory.

But Toriyama has done something that the fans have been requesting for quite some time.

And he has finally made Super Saiyan 4 a canon transformation in the Dragon Ball Universe.

And I have to...

Oh, I thought I froze again.

I think it's mighty quiet over there.

I was waiting for you to finish.

We are quite excited.

That looks so cold.

Cold.

I'm still trying to get...

Oh, yeah, that's true.

Wait, that's J4.

Isn't that when...

Oh, no, because I seen something.

I seen something where they were talking with the creators or the people that picked this up on Toriyama's behalf.

And they were like, they wouldn't use this transformation if it wasn't going to be a staple going forward type of thing.

So you remember when Beerus and Whis first came to Earth and they were speaking about the Super Saiyan God and it was somebody that was shown that looked like a form type of thing.

I believe the form is more similar to Super Saiyan 4 and I think Goku, when he finally reaches the ultimate form, I guess, versus Black Frieza, it will be a combination of this fur form as well as his Ultra Instinct.

So like an Ultra Instinct.

So they're really gonna do a white fur, white fur Goku.

That's been a thing since I was a child.

That would be crazy if that's actually a thing.

You remember that?

They used to have that.

They had a white hair, long hair, Goku with white fur.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Niggas are going crazy, man.

When he transformed, we was like, oh, if he did have black hair, that probably would have been a little bit better.

I knew something was throwing me off here with this.

I liked it because I knew that it was supposed to be different.

Like, that's the thing.

It's supposed to be different from GT, but it did want to pull on some of the element of GT.

So I was cool with it because I'm like, okay, well, this is like GT and the first Super Saiyan, or the movie with Bear is Destruction, God of Destruction, whatever it was called.

It feels like in between a GT and Battle of the Gods.

It looks like what that will look like before the movie.

So I'm like, all right, yeah, that's cool.

Because think about it.

The whole thing with Goku, as he get into these God forms, it's supposed to be a mastering of him to where it gets simpler and simpler and simpler, right?

Like when we get the Ultra Instinct, he don't really had that many changes.

He got the white hair form and all of that.

But when he simplify it even further, it's just regular Goku.

I think I got it right.

I might have it inverted.

I might have it inverted.

But the fact that it's supposed to be like a...

It's like a simplified version.

It makes like this version of Super Saiyan 4 makes Super Saiyan God look like the refined version of Super Saiyan 4.

Like when Goku is at the point where he can fully have mastery over the power that is afforded to him in Super Saiyan 4, it becomes Super Saiyan God.

So I was cool with it.

I'm like, yeah, I get to go on with the red hair.

I get to go on with the red eyes and all of that.

My thing is, do you think that we'll see this Super Saiyan 4 form?

Any other media?

I think we'll actually see it in the manga because we already have a new person that they have to face, aka new villain, aka Black Panther.

Is this still going?

Wait, wait, time out.

Is that still a thing?

The manga is still going.

It left off with Goku fighting.

Superhero.

Is it?

No, it left off, not just Superhero, it left off with Goku fighting Gohan and Broly fighting Goku when they were on Baris' planet.

And Gohan when his beast mode and everything like that.

So when is the next chapter?

That's a great question.

I don't think until they say like, yeah, we doing chapters again.

I don't believe it.

I need to like see, I need somebody to do.

Toriyama passing away was a major.

The next chapter, Dragon Ball Super, is expected to be released in February 2025 as a one-shot chapter.

The chapter will be titled Chapter 104.

We 16 days in the February.

When that mugged, when that dropped?

Dragon Ball Super went on a hiatus after the death of its creator, Akira Toriyama RIP.

The manga returned with the one-shot chapter, obviously this month.

The chapter will mark the beginning of the franchises next phase without Toriyama.

So they are continuing that.

But like, again, if it, we, we had the same thing.

Three days.

They got a date?

I'm looking at show.

Four days.

Yeah, February 20th.

Okay now.

Okay now.

Oh, it drops the same day at Boruto, like, is it?

Oh, yeah.

It's about to be, I was just about to say, say, just gonna be lined up with Boruto.

And we got a child again.

Feel like a child again.

Feel like a child.

And we got a whole lot of love, too.

And so I can sprinkle in some Sakamoto days in that goddamn dish, too.

Feel like a child again.

Can y'all explain why the J4 wasn't canon?

It was a separate series.

So like, Toriyama didn't do it.

It was basically what we're getting with Super.

It was that but America's version, right?

It was too popular.

They didn't want it to stop there.

So they made GT.

I think it's just by some white dude that was a major fan.

Like, I honestly think it was like some fan fiction.

So GT isn't canon?

No, no.

GT is canon now.

Now it is.

Now, currently.

Because they did a side story.

That wasn't the case originally.

They did a side story.

Dragon Balls.

I forgot what it was called.

It was on YouTube.

Dragon Balls.

Keep talking.

I'm going to figure it out.

Give me one second.

Yeah, but that was something that if it became canon, that was something that was done recently.

Because for the longest time, it wasn't, it was not, it was not canon.

It was something that didn't have even a curatorial input.

You know, at all.

So when he did SSJ4, niggas was like, what is this?

It was not like, it was hated.

GT was hated for a very long time.

I'm one of the, I like GT.

I didn't hate GT.

I thought GT was kind of cool.

I thought the little spin that they did with Shenron in GT was cool.

I was like, that makes sense to be the next hero.

Or the next villain is like, you know, the series is called Dragon Ball.

It makes sense for the next villain to be something from the Dragon Balls.

I thought it was logically it made sense and it was cool.

Oh, that's what she was talking about.

And Toriyama said that all that's canon, because the writer that did that is taking over, is pretty much taking over his work.

He said that stuff is canon.

So Super Saiyan 4 is canon because-

Oh, all of the stuff in Heroes is canon?

It's a different multiverse.

So anything in Heroes is free game now?

Free game.

Yeah.

That's weird.

I don't know how much-

I think it's nice.

Because I think Heroes was a surprising fan favorite, I'm not gonna lie.

I've heard quite a good-

Yeah, but it's like the fusions and all of that that come out of it and the power ups that come out of it is like, all right, bro, we doing a lot here.

Yeah.

I don't think he'll be everything, but I think he, I guess, has a good grasp of how the power system works, how you can bend it, I guess, to your will in order to fit a story.

Because they're gonna have to do some crazy power.

I don't think Goku in his-

obviously Goku in his present state can't beat Black Frieza.

I don't think Gohan will probably be able to beat Black Frieza in his present state.

He might provide a better fight.

But that's about it at this present point in time.

I'm super happy that it's resumed in the Summix, you know.

I don't-

we might get the one shot, and then I don't know how much content passed the one shot.

But at least knowing that it's moving forward, even if it's slow, I'm cool with it, because I do want to see-

it makes sense to-

even if it's the end, like if they end it on Black Frieza, I'm cool with that, because we need to just let me see Black Frieza, let me see what comes out of that.

And then if you want to be done with it after that, cool.

You already did the cell thing.

You already did the boo thing.

It kind of like went in reverse order when you think about it.

Like the original Dragon Ball Z was Frieza, cell and then boo.

And now it went boo, boo-ish arc with Mira, cell arc with the movie that we saw with Gohan, when Gohan Extreme or whatever that crazy design was.

And then now Frieza, you know, if they wanted to end at that note, like we went forward, then we went backward.

We went all, we went, we ended with what we started on.

I'll be cool with that.

Cause I mean, you can't have Vegeta go like crazy again.

That'll be, that won't make sense.

He got a family and all of that.

So yeah, I'm cool with that.

Just end on, I want to see it.

These niggas better hurry up and animate Moro and Granola.

That's all I care about.

Animate that shit.

Animate the fuck out of them shits, please.

All right, then we have Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

I think this would be the last one.

If we probably can get through Sakamoto Days quickly, since it's only one episode.

But Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man three episodes.

They introduced the Scorpion a huge way.

They go more in depth about Doc Ock sprinkling some more Norman Osborn backstory, I guess, or trickery that he might be playing from Spider-Man's standpoint, sprinkling some more development for Harry and Nico.

And again, create a lot of development for Peter in a way that's fresh and inspiring when you watch it.

I'm not gonna lie, that fight scene with Scorpion, the animation is literally like you've read and you open up the comic and now you're watching this shit.

You're watching it play out on the pages in front of you or on the screen in front of you in this instance.

But that Scorpion fight was nice.

How it ended was beautiful.

I'm gonna say this, they're putting out the stops for having Scorpion do what he did.

For him to actually unalive somebody.

Yeah, I was shocked by that.

I was not expecting that.

I was not expecting that.

He did that in the first fight.

They off-camera-ed it a little bit, but you still, even if you were a kid, would have known what that was.

Was that after he got the suit or that was before?

When he got the suit?

Yeah.

The 110.

Warehouse.

The warehouse?

Who did he end up?

He killed one of the 110 members.

What's that?

You just kind of see it in the air and then like, you know what happened though.

You know, and everybody like gasped, like everybody around the room is like, oh no.

But like you knew what happened.

It's like, oh wow, for a children's program, that's very grounded in like children-y world.

This is even how Peter got stabbed, boy.

Boy, I'll tell you.

That was serious, my brother.

I was like, ooh, this is good television right here.

This is great television right here.

So excited, man.

How y'all feeling about those episodes?

I like it.

I have no problems with it.

They doing their thing with the Spider-Man series.

A really pleasant surprise.

I like the design of the scorpion joint too though.

Yeah, it's really giving the old school feel.

Yeah, for sure.

And isn't that what happened in the comics too?

Like it got seared onto his skin?

Or that suit?

I don't know, but I do feel like that's familiar.

Like that's something about that seems familiar.

Like that's what happened in the original one.

Yeah.

Doc, I actually look like a boss in this mother fucker.

I'm not going to lie.

Yeah, that's clean.

Traditional design.

I love it.

And they pulling the cameos.

The cameos in this mother fucker is going crazy.

I got a question.

His friend Niko, who is she supposed to be?

She is also a superhero in the comics where she uses magic.

Because if you noticed when she was driving, her thing would glow and tell her to go left, right, or to keep herself alive.

I didn't even peep that part.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Then Tombstone.

Tombstone is not a very celebrated or known Spider-Man villain.

And like they really putting the story behind him.

I do, too.

As somebody who was reading the comic books when I was a kid, that like they put in elements that that and that's where I got so much like the more that the series goes on, the more that I really enjoy it.

It's because to Sage's point, it is a lot like the like reading something out of the comic books more than anything else that I've seen, even in an animated Spider-Man film outside of the original Spider-Man.

And the fact that they take in a Tombstone story and they really just like, like that is the one of the main characters that they doing a story behind.

I feel like that's like unique in regards to what most people would do with Spider-Man.

You know, most people would say, no, no, no, no, this whole season is just gonna focus on Norman Osborn or on Dr.

Ock or on Lizard, which Lizard is done really is I'm enjoying that.

That's done very, but the fact that they took a character like Tombstone, which like did like you said, I do like that character.

That's nice.

It's dope.

It's real cool.

It's beautiful to see, man.

And the cameos for the superhero, Iron Man, how Iron Man pulled up.

Icy, dog.

Okay.

Daredevil.

Daredevil fight.

Icy.

Even when we seen the glider, when the glider pulled up to save, spoiler alert.

That was sweet.

To save this man, bro, we like, oh, they're really going all in.

And I think they're only, I think it's two episodes left, if I'm not mistaken.

I think they left off our episode.

One of those series.

I wish it was more episodes.

Yeah, I wish.

I think they are already greenlit for multiple seasons, though.

So I'm curious where they really take this.

This is genuinely like one of my favorite.

It might be beating out Tom Holland, Spider-Man.

I'm not going to lie in regards to just Spider-Man content, how the story is progressing, how the stakes are, even though it's street level, the stakes are still high.

Yeah.

Why can't they do unique like this in the actual MCU world?

They do a little bit, but this is like different.

They ain't tapping into it like this.

I mean, you could tap into a bit more in the shows, though.

Like you said, show when the cameos and all that.

In the movie, they would probably have to flesh out Scorpion or flesh out Doc Ock or Norven.

I mean, they could, but I kind of like it in the show form.

Well, even the idea of no MJ right now, she might could pop up.

She could pop up, but haven't.

The fact, here's where I was like, oh, maybe she won't pop up.

They had Harry say, go get them, tiger, which is Mary Jane's line.

That is Mary Jane and Spider-Man like a mug.

And to have Harry do it, I was like, oh, they're really not introducing Mary Jane.

It's so different.

It's just super, I like it though.

It's like, I'm like, this feels like a modern, like if you retold the Spider-Man story and you were trying to make it fit for more of a modern, like the kids of today, this seems like the appropriate way to do that.

Like not Miles Morales, I get it.

Miles Morales though, but we got to respect Miles Morales as his own character.

Right?

Yes, that is for the kids of today as well.

But if you were to redo Peter Parker's Spider-Man for the kids of today, that's what the series feels like right now.

You love to see it.

Hit known to all cylinders.

All right.

We got Sakamoto Daisy.

I want to talk about the episode.

Yeah, we can talk about it.

The Leia's episode is pretty heat.

They take on the sniper.

They take on the sniper.

Yeah.

And he-

I just like how you said that.

It's pretty heat.

Yeah.

It was heat because it was hilarious.

I actually enjoyed it because you actually see Sakamoto actually use a firearm, and the way he does it is in an airsoft gun tournament that they have in.

But then the sniper finally realizes that's who Sakamoto really is.

Like he walks into the dagwon store and is like, yo, I'm looking for Sakamoto.

And everybody's like, no Sakamoto here.

But the store is named Sakamoto.

There's a lot of Sakamoto's in the area, like 200 million.

He starts freaking out, like, I gotta get this done as quickly as possible.

I ain't gonna have no money.

I haven't eaten breakfast or anything.

I'm sitting here starving.

And they're trying to avoid this man, then come to find out.

He tries to go to the airsoft gun place because it's a million yen on the line for it.

And he ends up joining Sakamoto's team.

And the one chick that gets really drunk pretty much outs Taro Sakamoto.

And the sniper ends up tailing all, trying to take him out.

And no, the sniper, he's not good at anything else, but sniping.

His bullets has this ability to ricochet off of three different points so that his opponents don't know who or what is coming their way.

So with that being said, like you see Sakamoto like start fixing, like understanding the timing of the bullets and ends up defeating the guy.

But then in the midst of it, Sakamoto and Shin end up winning the, they end up winning the airsoft gun and they only give this man 50 yen, even though he was a part of the team.

And he's like, wait, why am I only getting 50 yen?

Because you destroyed half the town.

So in the midst of him going after him, from switching to his real gun, he literally destroys everything in that area when he wasn't supposed to.

But I like how you actually get to see the seriousness out of Sakamoto now that his wife pretty much let the reins off, even though he still can't kill people.

But you see him actually getting serious in his fights.

So I'm actually looking forward to seeing how the rest of the series goes.

Now, did you see the following episode, T?

The latest episode was the sniper one.

I can't be that bad.

You read it, right, T?

You read Sakamoto Days 2, right?

I missed the, like, starting to read it.

But you furthered in the series is right now, right?

No?

Okay.

Do you?

Let me just say one word.

You remember The Lab?

No.

The last episode I seen before the Sniper one was Boyle.

The fight with Boyle.

So the latest episode is about the mind reading dude.

I don't remember any character's names, but the mind reading dude's hometown or home, the home he grew up in.

It's this place called The Lab.

No, literally the latest episode is the Sniper episode.

I'm looking at it right now on Netflix.

Episode 7.

Episode 6.

I got to get you them.

I got to get you them.

Oh, yeah.

I gotta give you the source, please.

The next...

alright, I'm gonna tell you this.

The next episode is nice.

I ain't going to spoil it since y'all didn't see it, but it's nice.

I thought, see, you read it, you read it.

So I got y'all.

You read it, though.

So that's why I thought you might have knew what happened at the party.

I'm trying not to spoil anything for people.

That's why I'm just trying to keep that one just to the anime of where they're at.

Then that's his name, ain't it?

Yeah, Shen.

Y'all said Shen.

Yeah.

OK, I'm gonna send you.

I got you all.

I'm gonna send you.

Sage, you good?

You look like you're about to pass out.

Yeah.

I was looking at some.

Looking at a little something.

All right, hold on.

Let me.

Yeah, it was good, though.

The episode with the sniper was really cool.

I like how they keep the emotion going, T.

I'm 100% with you in that regard.

It was funny.

I actually did enjoy the humor in this episode.

Additionally, let me think about that one again.

I do want to see more of the sniper dude.

And then the other thing is Sakamoto with the airsoft guns, he was like on some John Wick, John Wick.

So like, I really kind of want to see more of him on that level.

But what killed me is he took a rock, and crushed the whole sniper.

Yeah, that was wild.

Here we go, I got you right now.

I just realized that country number, I haven't heard anything about country number eight.

In terms of the coming back?

Yeah.

It's going to be coming back, but I'm not sure.

Did you see the manga?

But have you been reading the manga?

No, that's what I was asking about.

It just came out on January 30th.

Oh, it's every, it's every two weeks.

Oh, read that.

Read, it look, oh.

Oh, read that.

Oh, oh.

I forgot about it.

I ain't read it in a while, and then I saw a YouTube video kind of spoiled a little bit of it for me, and I was like, okay, I'm about to go read this right now.

Oh, you need to, yeah, bro.

Nigger nasty.

All right, though.

I think that was it.

Oh, yes.

Sakamoto Days was pretty good for me as well.

Just to see how they're, I thought he, I could have swore he was going to join their team after.

I'm not going to lie.

How they introduced him and gave him, I guess, his little back story and anything like that.

What I'm curious is how long is the manga series of Sakamoto Days so far?

Is it pretty far along?

Like they have a lot of.

It's got to be.

It's out there.

It's got to be a lot of it's because I've been seeing Sakamoto Days as a manga.

I just never read it, but I've been seeing it for like two, three years now.

Minimally, I'm curious what other.

For example, one chapter.

Yeah, she's waiting.

That sounds great.

How much content stories I have.

It's got to get serious then.

Like I know it's all, it's got to be on like some Gintama, like where it starts out, like he got to get serious.

It's got to be something got to happen.

And that's what that's why I need to watch episode seven.

And here's the funny part.

I just randomly went on to it, right?

So we're at chapter 19 and where was it?

Six episodes, four, six episodes in.

Chapter 19 within the manga.

So now the next one will be on chapter 20.

I think that, and that's the thing about this next, that episode seven, y'all haven't seen it yet, but I think that's where we start to get in the light.

I feel like that story.

Really, really?

Yeah, like, I don't know yet because it's just the first, like, introduction to it, but I feel like that is where we start to get the more serious, cause hear me out, here's where it was different too.

This was around the background of Shin.

It wasn't around Sakamoto being wanted for episode seven.

Oh, really?

But the threats that we get from that are more serious than the threats that we've gotten from Sakamoto's being wanted.

So I think that's going to kind of like be the signal for something like, okay, we're changing themes up a little bit here.

And it might lead to a serious arc, but I mean 200 chapters, this gotta be.

I feel like this is like Gintama.

If y'all like T, you saw Gintama, right?

You remember how Gintama was silly in the beginning?

Oh yeah, it was.

It was very silly in the beginning, but then as you progress more and more into the series, it became, it had more serious moment.

And then it would go back to, you know, the humor around it, but it would have these sprinkles, this like really serious moments, really serious like themes, really serious backstories and all of that.

And Gintama, or in Sakamoto days, is flirted with the idea that they've shown us little things.

It's like, oh, okay, like that could pull out a person's heartstrings.

So it make me feel like they gotta be doing that same Gintama kind of flow.

But I could be wrong, I don't know, because right now it just seem like, like a family, like a family show, like a family comedy action.

Yeah, yeah, it's like that round.

Robert Kirkman tells us that the new seasons of Invincible are expected to be released annually.

I can't guarantee that we'll be coming back in early February every single year, but this is the goal.

Great.

That's what we love to hear, baby, me and Black History Month!

Robert Kirkman said this for the brothers.

I don't know.

Robert Kirkman said this for the brothers.

Yeah, I like it though.

So we can co-opt it.

It's the least they can do for niggas.

Let me colonize your shit real quick.

Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah.

It might not be every February though, but if it's not every February, it'll be like January or March.

March, April.

April latest, possibly.

Yeah, April latest.

I'm cool with that.

I ain't got no issue.

Just the first three episodes on the first go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm kinda liking these series doing the three episodes at a time.

I'm liking it.

The series is doing that?

Spider-Man was doing that.

Yeah, on the first day, they dropped the first three episodes.

Did the boys do that?

They give us two.

Two, I believe, yeah.

Did Jim V do that?

They give us one a week?

Well, I can't remember, to be honest with you.

I'm gonna be really, because I'm trying to see how much of it is an Amazon thing, too.

Like, I try to look at, I'll be looking at how the businesses work.

So I'm trying to see, is this something where it's like Disney is trying to, or Amazon is trying to one up a way that Disney does it type of, you know, back.

I'm trying to see if there's anything like that there.

Since they both, they probably are the closest thing to competitors right now, Amazon and Disney.

And the superhero round, they're probably the closest thing.

So if Jim V does that three, if Jim V does that three episode thing, then I will know, okay, yeah, this is Amazon trying to basically say, we can satisfy you better than Disney can.

Even though that's not true, there's no reason.

They all be beefing for no reason instead of working together.

Spider-Man and Noir though, they working together, but that's like probably Sony's doing, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's probably Sony's doing more than it is Marvel or Amazon's, yeah.

Speaking on Spider-Man and Noir, is that shit really gonna be a movie?

It's not a movie, it's not a series.

I'm not gonna do the show, I'm pretty sure it's a show.

A show or what, but I'm like, I'm seeing like, I saw the picture of Nick Cage.

I'm like, bro, I didn't think this was like something that was actually serious.

They are so serious cause it's Sony.

When does that come out?

I hope it don't come out.

It's a thing.

It is definitely a thing.

But look at it this way, bro, we've seen Sony waste so much money on these movies.

Warner Brothers said the Batwoman movie, the Batgirl movie is made and ready to be released.

We not even gonna put that shit out, throw it in the trash.

I think Sony should follow suit for some of this shit, bro.

No, but they're gonna do it.

They don't care.

They're just gonna release it.

They don't.

You gotta understand, the IPO Spider-Man Noir is too grandiose, sorry T.

But speaking of Sony, I think they're done with their movies since Craven's the last one that they were coming out with in Venom's done.

So hopefully, we don't get anything else going forward.

They're probably gonna focus on animating.

And it seems like it's speculated that Spider-Man Noir is gonna be releasing this year on Amazon Prime.

They're gonna be like, fuck it, Madam Web too.

No, it's like a standalone thing, right Rob?

Nope, the series will be produced by Sony Pictures Television, Lord Miller Pascal Pictures, which is Amy Pascal Studio and Amazon MGM Studios.

No Marvel.

Is it no Marvel?

Like there's no Marvel.

No Marvel.

No Marvel associated with it.

No Marvel tagged to it.

Standalone, completely standalone.

Standalone.

There weren't even a part of the production, because usually if Marvel was a part of the movie, it will be in the productions, just like they do with the Spider-Man movies.

It's probably going to be the last thing they make Spider-Man outside of the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies and the animated series.

It's probably going to be the last live action.

It's going to have as much Marvel in it as Madame Web had Marvel, as fuck yeah.

What's the other shit?

Morbius had Marvel, had what's the other shit?

Craven had Marvel, as much as this series had no Marvel.

This motherfucker is absolutely about to have no Marvel either.

It's going to be Spider-Man villains.

They're going to just make them more.

You probably get like Sandman.

Oh, 1950s Sandman.

You're going to get...

The Crapid Green Goblin.

Yeah.

This nigga is...

Hey, Sonny, what do you want?

Ha ha, I'm the Goblin.

Ha ha ha.

This nigga's glider is on wheels.

This nigga's riding a skateboard down the fucking street, attacking niggas.

You can't catch me in my Model T glider.

Oh, it's about to be...

No, ours should be about to be trashed.

Yo, I don't trust...

You know how Sage and I get down when it comes to anything, Sonny?

You have no faith.

You can't even say, oh, Nicolas Cage.

You know how many bad Nicolas Cage movies Nicolas Cage done did?

You can't even have any hope.

You can't even have any hope because of the name.

No, no, no.

Bro, I don't even like that nigga as an actor.

My favorite thing he did was Ghost Rider, and that shit wasn't even that good.

Yeah.

My favorite thing Nicolas Cage did was Wally's Wonderland because he didn't speak at all during that movie.

I'm fucking weak.

I feel like I did see something good with Nicolas Cage in it, but it's not that many things that come out that's good with Nicolas Cage in it.

They could have swapped his ass out with that racist motherfucker from Taken.

Liam Neeson?

Yeah.

I'll take a racist motherfucker, Liam Neeson over fucking Nicolas Cage.

Now that's-

He about to cut him out as his main villain.

Yeah.

I'm trying to look it up.

Who going to be the villain?

Please.

Regular dude.

Brendan Gleason.

Plays the main villain in the Amazon series, Spider-Man Noir.

They just got Joe.

They got Joe Johnson, just a random Joe as the villain.

Did they say who he's supposed to play?

Which is based on an older grizzled version of Spider-Man.

So it's going to be Spider-Man versus Spider-Man.

Well, I guess they do got some people that have been known to be in some shit.

Emmy-winning director Harry Bradbeers overseeing the series and executive producing the first two episodes.

Steve Lightfoot and Oren Uziel, who worked on 22 Jump Street EW, and Steve Lightfoot worked on Marvel's The Punisher, serve as co-showrunners and executive producers, and developed a series with the Academy Award-winning team behind Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse, which includes Phil Lord, Christopher Miller, and Amy Pascal.

So maybe, maybe...

No, the main villain is Silver Mane.

Huh?

No, you heard me right.

Silver Mane.

Huh?

Not man, Silver, Silver Mane.

Oh yeah, pack this up.

All right, never mind.

Silver Mane.

Never mind.

They invoke Terrence Howard language.

Never mind.

For the...

Look up Silver Mane.

Look up Silver Mane.

I spell it exactly how I'm saying it.

Look up Silver Mane and just Google the name.

You ain't even got to put Comic Book Hero, none of that.

He pop up as soon as you type it in.

Why the shit says Silver Mane and then Coon?

Probably talking about like a cat.

It was?

Yeah, it did bring up a cat.

All right, Silver Mane.

Coon Price is crazy.

It's a Spider-Man villain?

It's a Spider-Man villain.

He was in the old Fox animated cartoon.

He was?

But I don't think he played his character in it.

No, I think he did.

Oh yeah, because I see a picture of him in Tombstone.

Yeah, I don't see his RoboCop shit in there at all.

This old decrepit ass.

All right.

All right, Sony, pack it up, bro.

Pack it up.

Put the frogs in the bag.

Who want to see Silver Man?

Who said, yo, who was sitting at a table and said, you know who they need?

Silver Man.

Yeah, take that ass over the top, boy.

I tell you, Silver Man.

It did roll off the tongue, don't it?

All right, bro.

Nuke Sony, from the PlayStation headquarters to the fucking entertainment section, nuke their premises immediately.

They need to be immediately disbanded for all of the crimes that they have committed to humanity since galvanizing the mantle of Sony.

Because this shit is fucking atrocious, nigga, atrocious.

I guess he's supposed to be like a like a like a Don Corleone type.

I don't think they go on focus on him being like a like he's going to be like a penguin character, like where it's more like mafioso.

That's what I'm thinking is going to be the case.

So basically they go on Sony, go on just try to they saw how Penguin went.

And they was like, okay, we about to do that with Silvermane.

Oh, this is going to be okay.

I mean like a crime.

Can you see, and in Spider-Man, no R.

So it's like a crime.

Spider-Man, can you see anything positive from that?

Like a, just think like the Penguin world, but replace, like think Gotham, but replace Batman with Spider-Man.

No.

That should be too dark for me.

It's too dark, and it's different, because Batman is like, he's just a man that get around by car.

I mean, and he damn near glide around town, but Spider-Man, like, you got the niggas swinging faster than cop cars going down the street, going like 60, 70, like all the little petty crime shit.

And Spider-Man could sneak through builders like, I mean, they both sneak through builders undetected, but it's Spider-Man, nigga.

Like these street dogs, there's nothing to him.

It's an older, it's not like young Peter Parker either.

It's like old, I don't even think it's Peter Parker.

And he's wearing a fucking outfit, a hat and a jacket?

No.

Cut this shit out.

Yeah, I don't, that whole, I hate that whole get up.

I really do.

Niggas really thought that, because in the live action Spider-Man movie, we seen a Spider-Noir, folks was really clamoring on the fucking tables.

Like, we need a Spider-Noir!

No, nigga!

Dude, it goes all back to those like analytics.

So when they did the animated movie, they were like, okay, what were the most popular Spider-Man?

Like, what were people talking about?

What was popping up on like social media and different things like that?

And Spider-Man Noir was one of the bigger characters that popped up.

You probably will see an animated Spider-Punk in the very near future.

Like I say, by 2029, you will see something about Spider-Punk.

Nigga, don't give Sony no ideas.

You might see a motherfucking movie in Spider-Punk.

You're not even lying.

You're not even lying.

They're fucking around and whitewash that nigga.

Spider-Punk villain would be like...

Spider-Punk is black?

Yeah, in the comics, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah.

Hobie Brown is his real name.

Dog, if they're like, if we can't use fucking Peter Parker, goddamn it, we're gonna use that Hobie Brown.

Activate the goonship.

Hobie Morales, watch.

They gonna fuck up Miles Morales.

You know who gonna play?

If they did a live action on Spider-Punk, I guarantee you too, they end up getting that Jada Smith boy.

That's what they would get to play out.

I'm sorry, D, if I'm giving them my ideas, I'm really sorry.

He would be a good Spider-Punk.

He would.

Because he was a beefing and karate pig.

Granted, we was all kids when it came out, but the way he act, he like a black Ezra Miller.

Perfect type of nigga for some Spider-Punk.

Yeah.

That's so wild how accurate that is.

The weird, quirky nigga.

Exactly.

The weird, quirky, James Gunny type dumbass nigga.

You see, he wore a house on his head for the Grammys.

Goofy ass nigga.

He got to be mad as fuck.

He the perfect Spider-Punk.

That's exactly who they...

Jane and Smith Spider-Punk is happening.

It make too much sense.

It's happening.

Yeah, bro.

Damn, I thought Spider-Punk was Peter Parker.

Yo, if Sonya's like here, y'all get Peter Parker and his villains, but we get the rest of the Spider-verse.

We're fucked.

Yeah, they making mad Spider.

You gonna see.

I thought we was done with Bro.

We're just getting started.

Yo, they gonna be like the Meek Mill intro.

Hold on a minute.

Oh, if they get Spider-Man 2099, nigga, we are fucked.

Bro.

Oh, my.

Yo, that actually, I can see that.

Like, logically, I could see that happening where they go, OK, we'll sell you Peter Parker bag, but we want the rest of the spot.

I can't honestly see Sony doing.

Oh, they gonna use that nigga that played Blue Beetle, use him from Miguel O'Hara.

They gonna use all these other weird ass niggas for all these different Spider-Man.

Spider-Verse movie without Peter Parker and Miles Morales.

Sony gonna be like, y'all not gonna do what y'all think y'all doing, Marvel.

We gonna fuck with your whole plan.

I honestly can see that.

We gonna make a dime from this movie.

We gonna make a Spider-Verse movie.

Yeah, because as long as the characters, as long as the characters, the other characters have some level of notability, Spider-Noir, Spider-Punk, Spider-Gwen, they can keep throwing these characters and animated stuff.

Oh, no, you're not gonna hear what I'm saying.

They gonna make movies.

They gonna make a Spider-Gwen movie.

I believe you.

But I'm saying, that's what I'm saying is, as long as they can get some level of, like, notability around the animated stuff.

Spider-Gwen, Billie Eilish.

Oh, I ain't gonna lie.

I'll be okay with that.

Yes.

All right.

There's one specific reason I might need to message y'all, as opposed to saying why she can't be Spider-Gwen.

It's one.

It's two reasons, actually.

It's two reasons.

It's two reasons.

They had to make it a rated R just because.

Except they have her, no lia...

You gonna put Billie Eilish in a leotard?

She ain't thick, is she?

It's two reasons.

It's the way he's looking.

It's gonna be like, he's sitting in a letter.

He's sitting in a letter right now.

He's in the Sony Studios.

Billie Eilish for Spider-Gwen.

Make this happen expeditiously.

Use all the money, I promise you.

Reduction on all other, they got red light, everything else.

Spider Gwyn, the perfect idea.

Oh my god.

What's that nigga name we just said?

She does, like the vibe wise though, she would be cool.

I could see them doing a Spider-Man musical.

I could see them doing a Spider-Man musical.

Oh no.

I could see Tony doing that though.

If she can act, she would be perfect for it.

Bro, they gon say, we need a Spider-Man musical.

We need a...

If you don't give a damn about that acting.

As long as she can act, she'll be perfect for it.

You don't care about no acting.

I'm looking for the action scenes of a Spider-Gwen musical with Billie Eilish.

Sydney Sweeney should have been Felicia Hardy.

I can see that.

I don't even think she cute, but I know she filled out that cat uniform.

The quiet was all niggas needed to hear.

I think this is like, goodness gracious.

She probably on the screen, Pog.

Bumped that.

Cat Dennings is Black Cat.

Y'all getting some people who don't be in the leotards.

And leotards right now.

Yeah.

Cat Dennings.

Where is this Erin at?

She was in the WandaVision.

She was the scientist.

Oh, oh, oh.

Y'all know who?

Oh, shit.

Oh, God damn.

Y'all can't be putting you in this people.

And leotards.

She can act too.

No, niggas, you know who?

The Flash used to have some hoes.

They should cast the joint that was, what's the joint with the Felicity with the glasses?

Oh, from Arrow.

Or is that Arrow?

That's right.

His girl.

Now those could have been some leotard hoes.

But no, cat denning is a...

That works better for people with that.

He can't handle that.

That'd be too awkward.

That's why, nigga, he's a mute.

He got powers from a spider.

That's why he could handle it.

Yeah.

And she gon pressure him.

She gon be like, nah, they like that kitty thing.

Yeah.

Nah, nigga, I'm telling you, black suit Tom Holland is gon be on Demon Time.

Could you imagine?

Don't let, don't let Cat Denny, bro, they get Cat Denny as fuckin Felicia Holland.

If I remember, what was it, Spider-Man 3, where he got the Venom suit?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was looking on Demon Time, too.

Yeah, he was, he was.

I could see how the little Jane came.

Nigga was in there dancin to jazz music and shit.

Nigga was hip thrustin, walkin down the streets of Manhattan in broad daylight, like it was A-OK.

Yeah, this Black Spider-Man gonna be different.

Nigga had Tom Holland in Dykman.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Ha ha ha!

Could you imagine?

After Bodega with the 48ers and the Black and White.

He like, nah, ain't that Manhattan this year.

I'm in Dykman.

Is Spider-Man swinging with Tim Zola?

This nigga getting light!

Gonna be water hydrants going off, and you just gonna see Spider-Man dancing with some Dominican.

Spider-Man pulling out fire hydrants and shit so kids can play?

Nah.

This shit gonna be better as fuck.

Yeah.

If they do that once he got a black suit, I'm gonna be like, hold up now, what y'all trying to say?

What?

This supposed to be a symbiote.

This don't feel like no symbiote right now.

This is a real message.

This is a nigga.

They just gonna straight up say it.

I ain't no symbiote.

I ain't no symbiote in this suit.

You know what we gon dance to is people go, we gon dance to this.

My symbiote.

Just when I thought I could have a movie with no niggas, you would end up bringing in this symbiote suit.

See, we not on a tangent.

It's Sony, nigga.

Look at the shit they caused us.

After craving the 100, they said, fuck it, Spider-Man Noir.

Oh, this pain, it's hurt more.

They put this.

It might be cool, but I just doubt it.

They in the red at this point with these money.

Somebody over there had beef with Stan Lee.

Somebody was like, yo, my great uncle said, fuck Stan Lee.

I'm about to ruin every character.

For as long as I live, I'm trying to sully these niggas names.

Oh, Jack Kirby, somebody from DC like Jack Kirby, long lost descendant.

DC giving these niggas payments on the star.

DC giving these niggas payments on the star.

I always used to hate your cameo in those Marvel movies anyway, old fart.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

He did not cameo in none of these movies.

Damn.

Yeah.

This whole entire time, no Stan Lee cameo.

Yeah, it's sad when you think about it.

DC really do gotta be funding these niggas.

They gotta have a shell company corporation somewhere, so he has to have it.

And DC is sending these niggas payments to shit on Spider-Man's legacy.

I take.

I would have much rather had Robert Downey Jr.'s character take up the new cameo role as opposed to him being doomed.

Sorry.

Cameo doing what?

Just Iron Man being Tony Stark, but just cameos the same way that they did it.

You can make them The Watcher or whatever.

You could do the same thing you did with Stan Lee.

No, bring that nigger back to Dr.

Doom.

I can't.

I mean, I would have much rather had that.

Iron Man.

Yeah, honestly, if anything, I would have just rather to continue to be Iron Man.

If anything, Marvel should have thought about this, they would have been like, yo, it's a great send off.

But if they really thought about this shit, look how impactful it'll be if they've seen all this lackluster shit.

Steve Rogers, he was going on and he got a call to action.

And it's like, yo, they need my help.

Granted, I'm 90, but I can still go back and do some shit.

I can go to the time machine.

Let me go talk to Bruce.

And then you got Robert Downey Jr.

on life support.

And then you come to find out he been cool for like two, three months.

He'd been working on a different suit.

He got all this shit going.

And then like at the nick of time, you got him and Steve Rogers join the battle.

Now you got a $2 billion film.

They're like, no, let's kill off RDJ and let's make Cap a 90 year old nigga just have nothing to do with him.

I mean, like you said, Rob, they got other movies they want to do, but I think Marvel could have just played.

They got to start bringing some of them back though, as like younger people.

Yo, honestly, when you think about it, right?

And this is one thing that I did get from the Captain America movie, and it's the last thing I got.

Replacing somebody who was old or is gone or is no longer in the films can clearly work without a problem, because Thaddeus Young was there was no issue.

It was like he was, it was like, because you know how to, I don't know, this is where T is like, don't say it, so I'm not.

But without saying anything about the movie, he plays Thunderbolt Raw, like, like, Harrison, but Harrison Ford playing Thunderbolt Raw, there was no issue.

There was no issue just having somebody.

I don't know whether the guy who played Thunderbolt Raw before, I know he died, but I don't know how old he was.

But technically, if he was older than Harrison Ford, you can clearly bring somebody new in that's younger, even if it ain't that much younger, in this case.

You could still bring somebody in that's younger, and it don't bother people.

It really, I don't see, did Thunderbolt Raw's being Harrison Ford bother you at all throughout the movie?

Nope.

And then nothing.

It's not that big of a deal, as they make it a bigger deal than it has to be.

But, I mean, it wasn't like we've seen Thunderbolt Raw's two movies ago or a movie ago.

The shit with The Hulk was like, yeah, we just seen The Hulk 2010.

Avengers came out 2012 and y'all got Mark and the Ruffalo instead of Edward Norton.

Like, the nigga just pulled up on the scene and we like, what?

Or, for example, y'all niggas went from Terrence Howard to Don Cheadle?

Yeah, that's another.

I still need them to explain that with how we had Secret Ward.

What was it?

Not Secret Ward.

Was it Secret Ward's?

Iron Man.

That's right.

That's right.

Ooh, that Kang.

How he's a scroll.

That would be a perfect.

That's the reason why they end up switching.

What do you mean?

I mean, niggas is like, yo, like he don't look nothing like Terrence Howard.

No, they said, fuck it, don't get over it.

But like, you can easily swap, like they could just have a new Iron Man.

You could just race swap.

A space, for real, especially with, especially with this whole incursions, like everything that's supposed to be like Battle World and all of that, and like different multiverses and universes.

You could bring Iron Man back.

This is the time to bring Iron Man back.

You can bring Iron Man, you can 100 percent bring Iron Man back.

You could bring Captain America back.

You can still have Anthony Mackie's Sam Wilson Captain America, but you could bring back a young Steve Rogers.

You could say, he was frozen in some new ice.

In this galaxy, we got him while he was in the ice.

We just say, he just ain't bust out the ice yet.

Or you could say, he didn't realize he was Steve Rogers.

And you don't have to use him now, but you could use him like 5, 10 years down the line.

You could do, yo, so you know they're not doing Young Avengers, right?

Good.

But they are.

No, no, no, no.

They are doing Young Avengers, but they aren't doing Young Avengers.

I know.

It's not going to be called Young Avengers.

It's not even that.

What they want to do is they want to have like the team that could exist with Kamala Khan and such.

Like, I think there's an I think it's a name from the comic book, but it's another team.

It's not it's like the champions, something like that.

They're not going to do.

That's like probably why they're introducing Amadeus Cho, because if I remember correctly, I think in that champions team.

That Amadeus Cho was in that champions team.

So if you start to see some Amadeus Cho, then you know, yeah.

But that's apparently, that's what it's supposed to be.

Is it supposed to be the champions and they move away from Young Avengers?

So yo, if I'm Marvel for the MCU, I'm going to just say, okay, we will just do like a legit Young Avengers.

Like we will just go and take, like we'll take an Iron Man from another galaxy, call him Iron Lad.

Have him be the new Tony Stark in this universe.

Go get a younger Captain America.

Have him be another Captain America in this universe.

Again, you still could have Sam Wilson's, like the regular Avengers.

You still could have the regular Avengers, but then you have like a literal younger Avengers where like, I can't spoil the movie for you, but this is what I was talking about of why I like Captain America.

There's a certain character in Captain America who could potentially have a connection to one of the original Avenger members.

And you could take a bunch of those different characters, like kind of, you know, like with Teen Titans, Cyborg is in the Teen Titans, right?

But then you also see Cyborg in the Justice League.

If you go and do champions, right?

The chick who replaced Hawkeye, she's supposed to be the leader of the team, like the champions team.

You can have her do her little champions wrong, but then you can have her be a part of the Young Avengers, where there's an Iron Lad, where there's a younger Captain America.

But see what they probably, what they likely gon go the route of is not, it's just doing an event, like a straight up Avengers with just like all new characters.

That's what everything points towards that being the case.

They're just, it's just going, that's everything points to that.

They're not going to do something like that.

But I think that that will be better because if you kept those team like the champions, you kept the champions where like, Ironheart as an example, not a big fan favorite right now.

A lot of people don't like Ironheart, right?

Have Ironheart be in the champions and then have her just go to a team like the Ultimates and then do an Ultimates movie.

You know, if Ms.

Marvel, basically whoever doesn't rate well, you put them in the champions, but then you bring back newer characters that people like more, you will put them in a younger Avengers.

So like that way you could bring back like an Ironman, you could bring back a Captain America, you could bring back a T'Challa, and you would just have them as a younger iteration and the standard Avengers will have like Sam, Captain America, cause they're not getting rid of that.

Like I would say scrap all of that and just get.

If they don't like a character like Ironheart, nobody likes Shorty.

Come on, bro, kill her off.

But they're not going to do that though.

I hear you, but they're just not going to do it.

I don't, Marvel don't.

You keep her and you keep putting her around shit.

It's like, yo, like my nigga, we not here for this.

This character at all.

I don't know.

Like I just don't think, I don't think they're going to do that.

It's like same thing with Shuri.

Like I know they talking about bringing T'Challa back, but I don't think that they necessarily will like kill off Shuri.

You know what I'm saying?

Like it's just something I don't see happening.

So throw them in the champion.

Yeah, but if they bring back a T'Challa, you really gonna want to see her Shuri?

She's like his, she's supposed to be what?

The second smartest or the smartest in the MCU?

I'm cool with her.

I'm cool with her, but I don't think the grander audience is gonna say, okay, if T'Challa is in this universe, I want to see Shuri in the event versus seeing T'Challa Black Panther.

Just having heard, yeah, not her as Black Panther.

No, I'm just saying, just having her like in the universe.

And her intelligence.

But that's, so I'm saying like, that's what's going to happen.

They gonna build Ironheart up to be that, like a character that you almost can't get rid of because you already just ingrained too much into everything else.

They've already started doing it with like Kamala Khan.

Now, granted, I like Kamala Khan.

A lot of people like Kamala Khan.

So that's fine, but you see what they're doing with Kamala Khan.

Like Kamala Khan is being ingrained in the larger MCU universe.

Well, especially with this champion team with the chick who has Hawkeye.

Like they're, they're being positioned to be like notable names, like people you know, like the same way you know Loki, or the same way you know, you know, these aren't necessarily people who are the Avengers, but you still know them, like they're still around, you know the Loki or Shang-Chi or that type of thing.

Like it's gonna be where you can't really necessarily get rid of these characters.

And that's why I think you should make a smaller team, like kind of like in the Marvel comics, how they did West Coast Avengers, and then they had regular Avengers.

I think that champions should fit as like that.

And whoever is gonna actually become an Avenger, you have them go through the course of Young Avenger, and they actually make a Young Avengers.

But I just don't see that happening.

I don't see them making like a pipeline system throughout their movies.

I don't think that that's something that Marvel.

Sorry, that was a mean tangent.

That was a mean tangent, my friend.

Yeah, you good.

All right, y'all.

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